Is ]-∞, ∞[ the Same as All Real Numbers?

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In summary: But if you did mean to write it that way then you are right, I have no idea why anyone would write x \in ]-∞, ∞ [ instead of x \in \mathbb{R}In summary, ]-∞, ∞[ (can also be written as -∞<x<∞) means all real numbers. However, it is more commonly written as x \in \mathbb{R} or (-∞, ∞) to avoid confusion. The notation ]-∞, ∞[ is rarely used and may vary in different countries.
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Does ]-∞, ∞[ (can also be written as -∞<x<∞) mean all real numbers?
 
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]-∞, ∞[

Never seen it written like that I would be more inclined to write :
[-∞, ∞] or more commonly me thinks (-∞, ∞) - to show that this is open

When you write -∞<x<∞ I guess the most common assumption is that x is contained in the reals but without context it really isn't smart to assume anything. Usually someone will specifically state x contained in the reals and -∞<x<∞ - or x contained in the integers and -∞<x<∞ or the set that x belongs to will be clear from the context.

(Sorry for not responding with yes or no but hopefully you understand why I could not)
 
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If the brackets are facing outwards ][ then they're supposed to mean the points are excluded.
If the brackets are facing inwards [] then they're supposed to mean the points are included.
At least, that's what I was told, and that's what I read in my textbook.

Anyway, yes, I see your point. Another number with the answer of "all real numbers" simply showed the symbol for it, so I'm pretty wary of assuming that -∞<x<∞ means "all real numbers" as well.

Thank you for your input though. :)
 
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I think the ] [ notation is used in other countries other than US.
 
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syukai said:
Does ]-∞, ∞[ (can also be written as -∞<x<∞) mean all real numbers?

In general, I'd say yes. But, it's normally easier to write something like [itex]x\in\mathbb{R}[/itex]
 
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NoMoreExams said:
I think the ] [ notation is used in other countries other than US.

Must be, in the US we typically use () to show open, and [] to show closed.
 
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yes that's exactly what that notation means and pretty much the only legit use of the symbol ∞
 
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Aaaah, thanks. I asked my math teacher before I read the last few posts, and confirmed that the answer is yes as well. :)
 
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You say

Does ]-∞, ∞[ (can also be written as -∞<x<∞) mean all real numbers?

first of all there is a difference between ]-∞, ∞[ and -∞<x<∞, the first is all the real numbers, the second is the same as [itex]x \in ]-∞, ∞[ [/itex]. You are right that ]-∞, ∞[ is all the real numbers, but an interval is defined from the real numbers, so that notation is rarely used.
 
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mrandersdk said:
You say

Does ]-∞, ∞[ (can also be written as -∞<x<∞) mean all real numbers?

first of all there is a difference between ]-∞, ∞[ and -∞<x<∞, the first is all the real numbers, the second is the same as [itex]x \in ]-∞, ∞[ [/itex]. You are right that ]-∞, ∞[ is all the real numbers, but an interval is defined from the real numbers, so that notation is rarely used.

the itex tags are misrepresenting your point. I view it as x in ] -8743, 8743 [

But what you actially wrote was x \in ]-∞, ∞ [ with itex tags.
 

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