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Just another way of life?

  1. Jun 21, 2007 #1

    arildno

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    arildno

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    Read the Quran, Marlon:
    From Surah 2:
    "Wives are their husband's fields; let him plow his fields whenever he likes".

    Of course the Quran doesn't state how the wife "should behave". Her behaviour, including her degree of consent, is irrelevant.

    I would just like to add that nowhere in Judaism or the Christian religion is the consent of the woman relevant, either.

    The main problem is that today, it is in Islam, and only in Islam (of the three religions), that this attitude is widely endorsed and dominant.
     
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    It may not be based on religion but it is another way of life indeed. One society aims to give the wishes of both genders equal consideration while another society aims to give one gender ownership over the other, to acquire and use as desired.
     
  7. Jun 21, 2007 #6

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    Where does it say that? I tried searching and googling for that phrase, but couldn't find it. And I won't be reading through the massive webpage that is Surah 2. :rofl:

    I agree that this is the main problem. It's because most of the predominantly Islamic countries are 3rd world. People there are brainwashed with nonsense that is justified by saying "God wills it so", regardless of how absurd it may be. The end result is a large degree of closed-mindedness and a sheep-mentality. Of course the people in charge love this because it gives them total control over the populace.

    One can hope for a large reform a la the Renaissance.
     
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  8. Jun 21, 2007 #7
    I doubt wether this is written in the Quran.

    marlon
     
  9. Jun 21, 2007 #8

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    Surah 2:
    "223. Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will; but do some good act for your souls beforehand; and fear Allah. And know that ye are to meet Him (in the Hereafter), and give (these) good tidings to those who believe."

    You are right, I forgot that the man can till his soil WHICHEVER WAY he likes as well.

    This is an alternate translation:
    "Your women are a tillage for you; so come unto your tillage as you wish, and forward for your souls; and fear God, and know that you shall meet Him. Give thou good tidings to the believers."
     
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  10. Jun 21, 2007 #9
    This does not mean that you can do whatever you want with your wife.You are interpreting arildno, but that's an easy mistake to make :rolleyes:. Besides, what does the Surah state on the subject of "responsability for your wife and family" ?
     
  11. Jun 21, 2007 #10

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    Indeed. I am interpreting correctly.
    Whether Muslim rapists also have the duty to clothe and feed their wives are beside the issue.
     
  12. Jun 21, 2007 #11

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    In your opinion. It could, for instance, be a metaphor that compares a woman's ability to bear children to that of a land's in bearing crops. After all, the Quran is noted for its poetic aspects.

    This doesn't justify calling Muslims rapists though.
    Anyhow. This thread will probably get locked now.
     
  13. Jun 21, 2007 #12

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    Of course not! I've read the 1st part " Wives are your fields" but the 2nd part isn't there. :wink: And of course its not interpreted the way you think.I guess it says "spread your seeds in the field".
     
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    Obey me woman!!! :devil:

    :rofl: They have mistresses, can you believe that?? Those stupid western pigs! They dont even treat their women as second class citizens!

    Waaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh? They give their women rights??? <does a double take>

    Lets all pray to Allah, that this guy has nothing but daughters with husbands that make them have sex against their will day and night.

    Oops, I guess I shouldnt say that is not PC or tolerant. :eek:

    Prophet Trojan Man is going to strike me down.
     
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  15. Jun 21, 2007 #14

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    Well this got out of hand quickly.
     
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