Keplers laws and a hypothetical 1/r^3 dependence

In summary, if the gravitational force was proportional to 1/r^3 instead of 1/r^2, Kepler's first and second laws would still hold true, but the third law would be affected. The orbital period of a planet would change, and the shape of its orbit may also be altered.
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Hello,
i've been asked a hypothetical question about Keplers three laws: What if the gravitational force was proprotional to 1/r^3 instead of 1/r^2? And for one of the laws it apparently "isent easy to decide". My thoughts:

keplers 1. : my first thought was that this law was the "not easy to decide"
keplers 2. : must still be valid, because the vector product r x F will always be zero, and hence dL/dt = 0 (conservation of momentum for any central force)
keplers 3 : a planets period would change?

Is this correct? And can somebody help me clearify matters?
 
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Thanks in advance!Kepler's first law: This law states that the orbits of planets around the Sun are ellipses, with the Sun at one focus. If the gravitational force was proportional to 1/r^3, then the orbits would still be ellipses, but the shape of the ellipse may change.Kepler's second law: This law states that a planet sweeps out equal areas in equal times along its orbit. Since the gravitational force is determined by the ratio of the masses of the two objects and the square of the distance between them, a change in the force to 1/r^3 would not affect this law.Kepler's third law: This law states that the square of the orbital period of a planet is proportional to the cube of the semi-major axis of its orbit. If the gravitational force was proportional to 1/r^3, then the orbital period would change, as the force would influence the acceleration of the planet along its orbit.
 
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Hello,

Your thoughts are correct. If the gravitational force were proportional to 1/r^3 instead of 1/r^2, it would have a significant impact on Kepler's laws. Let's break it down and see how each law would be affected:

1. Kepler's First Law states that planets move in elliptical orbits with the Sun at one focus. If the gravitational force were 1/r^3, it would result in a different shape of the orbit. In fact, the shape would no longer be an ellipse but instead a shape called a "lemniscate" which looks like a figure eight. This is because the force would not decrease as quickly with distance, causing the planet to move in a more elongated orbit.

2. Kepler's Second Law states that a line joining a planet and the Sun sweeps out equal areas in equal times. This law would still hold true because, as you mentioned, the vector product r x F would still be zero, meaning that the angular momentum of the planet would still be conserved.

3. Kepler's Third Law states that the square of a planet's orbital period is proportional to the cube of its semi-major axis. If the gravitational force were 1/r^3, this law would also be affected. The orbital period would no longer be proportional to the cube of the semi-major axis, but instead, it would be proportional to the square root of the semi-major axis. This means that planets farther from the Sun would have longer orbital periods than they do under the 1/r^2 force.

In summary, a hypothetical 1/r^3 dependence of the gravitational force would have significant implications for Kepler's laws. It would result in different shaped orbits, but the conservation of angular momentum would still hold true. The most significant change would be in Kepler's Third Law, where the relationship between a planet's orbital period and its distance from the Sun would be altered. I hope this helps clarify the matter for you.
 

1. What are Kepler's laws?

Kepler's laws are a set of three laws that describe the motion of planets around the sun. They were developed by astronomer Johannes Kepler in the 17th century and are still used today to understand the behavior of objects in our solar system.

2. What is the first law of Kepler?

The first law, also known as the law of orbits, states that all planets move in elliptical orbits with the sun at one focus. This means that the distance between the planet and the sun varies throughout its orbit, with the closest point being called the perihelion and the farthest point being called the aphelion.

3. What is the second law of Kepler?

The second law, also known as the law of areas, states that a line connecting a planet to the sun sweeps out equal areas in equal times. This means that the planet moves faster when it is closer to the sun and slower when it is farther away, resulting in equal areas being swept out in equal time intervals.

4. What is the third law of Kepler?

The third law, also known as the law of periods, states that the square of the orbital period of a planet is proportional to the cube of its average distance from the sun. Mathematically, this can be expressed as T^2 ∝ r^3, where T is the orbital period and r is the distance from the planet to the sun.

5. How does a hypothetical 1/r^3 dependence affect Kepler's laws?

If a hypothetical 1/r^3 dependence were to exist, it would mean that the force of gravity between two objects is inversely proportional to the cube of the distance between them, rather than the square of the distance as described by Newton's law of universal gravitation. This would have significant implications for the accuracy and applicability of Kepler's laws in predicting the motion of planets and other objects in space.

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