Kepler's third law and multiple formulas

In summary, you timed how many cars passed a given point in a minute, using the assumption that the average speed is 100 km/h. You got the answer wrong because you used the wrong equation and the wrong unit.
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stressedout
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Hi,

I just got my physics test back and am hoping I can be helped with two questions. My instructor gave it back at the end of class leaving no time for going over it.

1) Suppose the period of the moon in its orbit about the Earth were 41.1 days and the moon were 768,000 km from earth. Suppose the Earth's radius were 15,950 km. Use Kepler's third law to determine what the period of an artificial satellite orbiting near the Earth's surface would be.

Kepler's third law is: T^2=Kd^3 or from what I understand D^3/T^2
Tm= 41.1 days
Dm= 768,000 km
De= 15,950 km

So first I did:

Dm/De= 768,000 km/15,950 km = 48.15047022 km

Then (Dm/De)^3= 48.15047022^3 km = 111635.3139 km

Next I did (Tm/Te)^2= 111635.3139 km
so the square root of 111632 = 334.1187123

334.1187123 x 41.1 days = 13732.27908 days
now I have to get in into hours so:
13732.27908 days x 24 hr/day = 329574.6978

Now what? Have I done something wrong or do I have more steps to take because the answer should be one of these four choices:

(a)1 hr (b) 2 hr (c) 3 hr (d) 4hr (e) 5 hr


2) Calculate the carrying capacity (number of cars passing a given point per minute) on a highway with three lanes (in one direction) using the following assumptions: The average speed is 100 km/hr, the average length of a car is 7.0 m, and the average distance between cars should be 75 m.

v= 100 km/hr
d= 75 m

I thought I shoud begin the problem by looking for the time it takes so I did t=d/v and got t= 0.75 s. Now I am stuck. I know I have to use another formula somewhere. Please let me know what I am looking for now and which formula I should use so I can try to get the answer.

The answer needs to include cars/min as the choice for the answers are:

(a) 21 cars/min (b) 31 cars/min (c) 41 cars/min (d) 51 cars/min
(e) 61 cars/min


Is there any type of clue you can give me to know when to use which formula when answering physics question. Unless I see certain words or symbols mentioned like centripetal acceleration, average acceleration, or N in questions I am at a loss. There are so many formulas and I am not clear on when which formula should be used.

Thank you in advance.
 
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Actually, Kepler's third, or "Harmonic" law is:

T1²/T2²=D1³/D2³

Which relates the orbits of two object, revolving around the same body.

You are given T1 andD1, the Moon's period and distance, and D2, the satellite distance, so all you need to do is rearrange to find T2
 
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Janus: That was exactly what he did!

1)
stressedout: You were fine up to here:
Next I did (Tm/Te)^2= 111635.3139 km
so the square root of 111632 = 334.1187123

334.1187123 x 41.1 days = 13732.27908 days

You are given Tm and are looking for Te:
it's Tm/Te= 334.12 so Te= Tm/334.12.

You went the wrong way!


2) Since the average speed of the cars is 100 km/h, in one minute, the average car will have gone 100 km/h* 1/60 hr= 1.666667 km or
1667 m. I.e. you will have observed all the cars pass which were up to 1667 m back when you started timing. Since you are told that the average car is 7 m and there is an average of 75 m between cars, each car is taking a total of 82 m of road. There are 1667/82= 20.3 such blocks in 1667 m of road so you should observe an average of 21 (since 20 is not given as an answer- I guess they are counting part of a car as a car) cars per minute.

The way you tried would give you the answer except for two small errors and one horrendous mistake:
The horrendous mistake: 75 m by 100 km/hr is NOT "0.75 S".
100 km/h = 100 km/hr*1000 m/km= 100000 m/h= 100000 m/h *1 h/3600 s= 27.8 m/s so 75 m by 27.8 m/s= 2.7 s. Each car would take 2.7 s to pass, not .75s.

The small errors: first, you should have calculated the time in minutes, not seconds, since you are asked for the number of cars that pass in one minute: 2.7 s= 2.7/60= 0.45 min. So that in one minute
1/.45= 22.2 cars pass.

That's not quite correct because, to find the section of road each car "occupies", you need to include the car itself! You should use 75+ 7= 82 m. for each car. 82/27.8= 2.85 s = 0.49 m and 1/.49 m/car
= 2.04 cars close to what I had.
 

What is Kepler's third law and what are its multiple formulas?

Kepler's third law, also known as the "harmonic law," states that the square of the orbital period of a planet is directly proportional to the cube of the semi-major axis of its orbit. This law can be expressed using multiple formulas, including the original form (P^2 = a^3), the form using astronomical units (P^2 = a^3), and the form using years and astronomical units (P^2 = a^3).

What is the significance of Kepler's third law?

Kepler's third law allows us to calculate the orbital period of a planet or other celestial object based on its distance from the sun. It also helped to solidify the idea that the planets orbit the sun in elliptical paths, rather than circular ones.

How did Kepler discover his third law?

Kepler discovered his third law while studying the orbits of the planets using data collected by Tycho Brahe. After years of observations and calculations, he noticed a relationship between a planet's distance from the sun and its orbital period, leading to his formulation of the third law.

Does Kepler's third law apply to all celestial objects?

Yes, Kepler's third law applies to all celestial objects that orbit a central body, such as planets, moons, and comets. It can also be used to calculate the orbital period of artificial satellites orbiting Earth.

Are there any exceptions to Kepler's third law?

Kepler's third law is an idealized formula that assumes circular orbits and only takes into account the gravitational pull of the central body. In reality, there are exceptions to this law, such as when other celestial bodies exert significant gravitational forces or when the orbit is highly elliptical. However, for most celestial objects in our solar system, Kepler's third law holds true.

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