Solving Kinematic Problems: Police Car Skid Marks

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In summary, the problem at hand is determining the initial speed of a car when the brakes were applied based on the length of skid marks (200m) and the constant deceleration rate of 20m/s^2. The conversation discusses different methods to solve this problem, including using the physics equation v^2=u^2+(2*(a*s)), using integration, and finding the average speed. The final solution is found to be 89.4 m/s.
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Kinematic problems!

hi there,here is my problem

The police observe that the skid marks of a stopping car are 200m long. Assuming the car decelerated at a constant rate of 20m/s^2,skidding all the way, how fast was the car going when the brakes were applied?

i think we can solve the problem by using the physics equation v^2=u^2+(2*(a*s))...and
i try to use integration but the time interval isn't given so i am just looking for an alternative way to solve this problem...by the way ,this is a calculus assignment.

thx
 
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Im getting Vi as 88.5 m/s
 
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yes i got 89 something too...but i just wonder if this problem can be done by integration?

but thanks anyway
 
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http://home.comcast.net/~rossgr1/Math/skidding.PDF is a solution which uses integration. It starts with the basic fact that this is a problem with a constant acceleration and integrates the basic differential equation to arrive at the solution.
 
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thx integral it really help! :) thanks a lot
 
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Because this is a constant acceleration problem (so that the velocity function is linear), you can use the "average" velocity.

Let v be the initial speed. Of course, the ending speed is 0 so the "average" speed, the average of those two numbers, is v/2.

Letting t be the (unknown) time required to stop, the distance is
(v/2)t= 200 m.

And we do know the time- in a sense. At an acceleration of -20 m/s^2, to go from v to 0 requires (since 0= v- 20t) v/20 sec.

Putting that into (v/2)t= 200 gives v^2/40= 200 or v^2= 8000.

v= [sqrt](8000)= [sqrt](1600*5)= 40[sqrt](5)= 89.4 m/s

If you're not really sure about that "average" speed, here's the standard way:

With acceleration a, the distance traveled is d= (a/2)t^2+ vt.
(You could say we use integration to get that.)

In this problem, -10t^2+ vt= 200.

Again, since the time taken to slow from v to 0 with acceleration
-20 m/s^2 is v/20 sec., we have (-10)v^2/400+ v^2/20= 200.
That is, -v^2/40+ v^2/20= v^2/40= 200 so v^2= 8000 again.
 

1. How do you calculate the speed of a police car involved in a collision using skid marks?

The speed of a police car can be calculated using the formula V^2 = u^2 + 2as, where V is the final velocity, u is the initial velocity, a is the acceleration (which is assumed to be negative since the car is braking), and s is the distance of the skid marks. Simply rearrange the equation to solve for u, the initial velocity.

2. What factors can affect the accuracy of calculating the speed of a police car using skid marks?

Several factors can affect the accuracy of this calculation, including the condition of the road surface, the weight and tire type of the car, and the efficiency of the car's brakes. It is important to take these factors into consideration when conducting an investigation.

3. Can skid marks be used to determine the direction of travel of a police car involved in a collision?

Yes, skid marks can be used to determine the direction of travel of a police car. If the car was braking and skidding in a straight line, the skid marks will be parallel to the direction of travel. However, if the car was turning while skidding, the skid marks will be curved and can provide information about the direction of the turn.

4. How can the coefficient of friction be determined from skid marks?

The coefficient of friction can be determined by dividing the deceleration of the car (calculated using the formula a = (V^2 - u^2)/2s) by the gravitational acceleration (9.8 m/s^2). This will give the coefficient of friction for the specific road surface and tire type.

5. Are skid marks the only factor used in determining the speed of a police car involved in a collision?

No, skid marks are not the only factor used in determining the speed of a police car involved in a collision. Other pieces of evidence, such as witness testimonies and damage to the vehicles, should also be taken into consideration for a more accurate estimation of the car's speed. Skid marks should be used in conjunction with other evidence to get a complete picture of the collision.

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