# Kirchhoff law problem

1. Mar 2, 2016

### WeiLoong

1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

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2. Relevant equations
Kirchhoff Law
1. Find the current in the circuit
2. Find the potential diferent between X and Y
3. The attempt at a solution

1 by using the kirchoff law. V=IR
I=0.025

question 2 I=0.025
but how to find Vx and Vy?
Vx =IR
I =0.025 but which R is supposed to use?

2. Mar 2, 2016

### cnh1995

Your current direction is correct. One way to solve this problem would be by assigning potentials and calculating voltage drops. Assume potential of point W to be 0V. That way, +ve terminal of 20V source will be at 20V. Then calculate drop across 40 ohm resistor. Point x will be at 20-V40Ω potential. Go on with this along the loop and find potential of point y. Difference between them is your Vxy.

3. Mar 2, 2016

### WeiLoong

Thanks!! I got it
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By using kirchoff law i get all the current
the question ask to find the PD between A and B, the question is the voltage drop i should begin in which point? Because there is 2 sources

4. Mar 2, 2016

### cnh1995

You can start by either assuming A at 3V or assuming B at 0V. Since you know i1, assuming B at 0V will be easier.

5. Mar 2, 2016

### WeiLoong

But point A is supplied by 2 battery of 3V.If i use voltage drop, I only need to look at the top loop?

6. Mar 2, 2016

### cnh1995

You need to find the currents using the two loops (which will include both the sources) and then by assuming a suitable reference( VB=0V), you can find Vab like you did in the last problem.

7. Mar 2, 2016

### WeiLoong

if i assume Vb =0
-6(I2)+3V=Va?

8. Mar 2, 2016

-6I1+3V=Va..

9. Mar 2, 2016

### WeiLoong

Ops mistake haaha. thank you , have a good day!

10. Mar 2, 2016

### WeiLoong

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If Vx is 0 , what is the V in point Y
-12(I1)-8(I2)=Vy
which i will gef -12V in Y, is this possible for me to get 12V in negative value?

11. Mar 2, 2016

### cnh1995

Yes. In fact you don't even need to know the current for that. Moving from x to y along the bottom wire, you can see a voltage drop of 12V.