1. Limited time only! Sign up for a free 30min personal tutor trial with Chegg Tutors
    Dismiss Notice
Dismiss Notice
Join Physics Forums Today!
The friendliest, high quality science and math community on the planet! Everyone who loves science is here!

Kittel page 109

  1. Mar 21, 2008 #1
    1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
    This question refers to Kittel's solid-state physics book.

    On this page, Kittel says that "each normal vibrational mode of polarization p has the form of a standing wave." I am not sure what the polarization p refers to?

    2. Relevant equations

    3. The attempt at a solution
  2. jcsd
  3. Mar 21, 2008 #2
    Well, a wave can be polarised --- solids support longitudinal waves and transverse waves. There will be two independent polarisations for the latter.
  4. Mar 22, 2008 #3
    Can you just define what the polarization of a wave is?
  5. Mar 22, 2008 #4


    User Avatar
    Science Advisor
    Homework Helper

    http://physics.unl.edu/~tsymbal/tsymbal_files/Teaching/SSP-927/Section%2005_Lattice_Vibrations.pdf [Broken]

    see page 5

    etc. just google it
    Last edited by a moderator: May 3, 2017
  6. Mar 24, 2008 #5
    On Kittel page 109 second sentence, it says "Each normal vibrational mode of polarization p has the form..."

    What is "p"?
  7. Mar 24, 2008 #6


    User Avatar
    Science Advisor
    Homework Helper

    just an integer, n, m, k, l etc.
  8. Mar 24, 2008 #7
    There should be uncountably many polarization modes, which means there are not enough integers to accommodate all of them. There are uncountably transverse directions, aren't there?

    Also, do we know what polarization p = 1, for example, corresponds to?
  9. Mar 24, 2008 #8
    No --- there are two independent transverse polarisation modes. The key is the independence. The transverse modes are effectively vectors in a 2D plane.
  10. Mar 24, 2008 #9
    So, a set of polarization modes will always be a basis for [itex]\mathbb{R}^3[/itex]? And you can choose any such basis for your set of polarization modes? So, p will always be 1, 2, or 3?
  11. Mar 25, 2008 #10
  12. Mar 26, 2008 #11
  13. Mar 26, 2008 #12
Know someone interested in this topic? Share this thread via Reddit, Google+, Twitter, or Facebook

Similar Threads - Kittel page Date
Kittel Thermal Physics Chapter 2 problem 6 Feb 7, 2015
Diffraction condition - Kittel's Intro to Solid State Physics 8th ed. Apr 19, 2014
Kittel page 112 Mar 21, 2008
Kittel page 174 Feb 29, 2008
Kittel page 166 Feb 24, 2008