Laplace and pole zero diagram.

In summary: So you can forget about the input X(s) when determining stability or evaluating the resulting pole locations. In summary, the conversation discusses the use of a forward Laplace transform to determine the damping ratio and pole zeros of a system with respect to time. A pole zero diagram is then plotted and stability is commented on. The unit impulse used to stimulate the system is only used in order to compute the system transfer function, which is necessary to determine the output for any given input.
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The following diff. equation describes the functionality of a system with respect to time. However, it is not known how the system will behave when stimulated. Apply a forward Laplace transform to determine damping ratio and pole zeros. Plot a pole zero diagram and comment on stability.

d2y/dt2 + 6dy/dt + 10y = 63dy/dt + 63xPutting like terms on either side of the equation:

d2y/dt2 + 6dy/dt - 63dy/dt + 10y = 63x

= d2y/dt2 - 57dy/dt + 10y = 63x

Laplace transform:

s2Y(s) - 57sY(s) + 10Y(s) = 63 ... (63 because unit impulse used to stimulate?)

Simplify for Y(s):

Y(s).(s2 - 57s + 10) = 63

Solve for Y(s):

Y(s) = 63/(s2 - 57s + 10)

Using quadratic formula to find poles:

s= (57 +/- √572 - 4 x 1 x 10)/(2 x 1)

= (57 +/- 56.648)/2 = 28.5 +/- 56.648 (I was expecting a complex number!)

I think that I am nearly there, but I suspect that I have gone wrong.
 
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Steve Collins said:
The following diff. equation describes the functionality of a system with respect to time. However, it is not known how the system will behave when stimulated. Apply a forward Laplace transform to determine damping ratio and pole zeros. Plot a pole zero diagram and comment on stability.

d2y/dt2 + 6dy/dt + 10y = 63dy/dt + 63x


Putting like terms on either side of the equation:

d2y/dt2 + 6dy/dt - 63dy/dt + 10y = 63x

= d2y/dt2 - 57dy/dt + 10y = 63x

Laplace transform:

s2Y(s) - 57sY(s) + 10Y(s) = 63 ... (63 because unit impulse used to stimulate?)

Factor out Y(s)F(s) = X(s) from the above transformed equation with X(s) = 1 (unit impulse input).

Then Y(s)/X(s) = 1/F(s) and let H(s) = 1/F(s) so that now Y(s) = X(s)H(s). H(s) is now the system transfer function. Given any X(s) you can now compute Y(s) and consequently y(t).

Note that the magnitude of the input impulse has nothing to do with pole/zero location, nor damping ratio. You only use it if you want to compute Y(s) and y(t).

Note also that with an impulse input, all the poles & zeros of the output Y(s) are due to the system H(s) only.
 

1. What is a Laplace and pole zero diagram?

A Laplace and pole zero diagram is a type of graph used in control systems engineering to analyze the stability and behavior of a system. It plots the poles and zeros of the system's transfer function in the complex plane, with the real axis representing the frequency response and the imaginary axis representing the phase response.

2. How is a Laplace and pole zero diagram used?

A Laplace and pole zero diagram is used to determine the stability and performance of a control system. By analyzing the location of the poles and zeros in the complex plane, engineers can predict how the system will respond to different inputs and make adjustments to achieve desired performance.

3. What is the difference between poles and zeros in a Laplace and pole zero diagram?

Poles and zeros represent the roots of the system's transfer function, which is a mathematical representation of the relationship between the input and output of a system. Poles are the points in the complex plane where the transfer function becomes infinite, while zeros are the points where the transfer function becomes zero.

4. How do poles and zeros affect a system's stability?

The location of poles and zeros in the complex plane can determine the stability of a system. If the poles are located in the left half of the plane, the system is stable. If the poles are in the right half of the plane, the system is unstable. Zeros can also affect stability by canceling out poles, which can improve system performance.

5. Can a Laplace and pole zero diagram be used for any type of system?

Yes, a Laplace and pole zero diagram can be used for any system that can be represented by a transfer function. This includes mechanical, electrical, and biological systems, as well as financial and economic systems.

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