Laplace Transform question [SOLVED]

In summary, the conversation discussed using the Laplace transform to solve a given IVp involving a second-order differential equation and initial conditions. The problem was converted into frequency space and partial fractions were used to simplify the equation. The conversation then explored the use of convolution to solve for the last term, which could not be solved using traditional methods. One of the participants used a TI-89 calculator to perform the convolution.
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[SOLVED] Laplace Transform question

Homework Statement



Use the Laplace transform to solve the given IVp
[tex]
{\frac {d^{2}}{d{t}^{2}}}y \left( t \right) +2\,{\frac {d}{dt}}y
\left( t \right) +5\,y \left( t \right) ={e^{-t}}\sin \left( 2\,t
\right)
[/tex]
[tex]y(0)=1, y'(0)=-1[/tex]

Homework Equations


[tex]L(f) = \int^{\infty}_{0}e^{-st}f(t)dt[/tex]
[tex]
L \left( {e^{-t}}\sin \left( 2\,t \right) \right) =2\, \left(
\left( s+1 \right) ^{2}+4 \right) ^{-1}
[/tex]

[tex] y'' = Ys^{2}-y(0)s-y'(0)[/tex]
[tex] y' = Ys - y(0)[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


I first converted the problem into frequency space like so:
[tex] Y(s^{2}+2s+5) = 2\, \left(
\left( s+1 \right) ^{2}+4 \right) ^{-1} +2s+3[/tex]
[tex]Y={\frac {2\,{s}^{3}+7\,{s}^{2}+16\,s+17}{ \left( {s}^{2}+2\,s+5
\right) ^{2}}}[/tex]

Then I used Partial Fractions:
[tex]
Y={\frac {As+B}{{s}^{2}+2\,s+5}}+{\frac {Cs+D}{ \left( {s}^{2}+2\,s+5
\right) ^{2}}}
[/tex]
Solving the 4 equations that result I got the following values for the constants:
[tex] A = 2[/tex]
[tex] B = 3[/tex]
[tex] C = 0[/tex]
[tex] D = 2[/tex]
Putting these constants back into my initial partial fractions equation i get:
[tex]Y={\frac {2\,s+3}{{s}^{2}+2\,s+5}}+2\, \left( {s}^{2}+2\,s+5 \right) ^
{-2}[/tex]
[tex]
Y=2\,{\frac {s+1}{ \left( s+1 \right) ^{2}+4}}+ \left( \left( s+1
\right) ^{2}+4 \right) ^{-1}+2\, \left( {s}^{2}+2\,s+5 \right) ^{-2}
[/tex]
The first of these two I can find the inverse Laplaces for, but the last I can't figure out what to do with. This is where I am stuck at:
[tex]
y=2\,{e^{-t}}\cos \left( 2\,t \right) +1/2\,{e^{-t}}\sin \left( 2\,t
\right) +\mbox {{\tt `\#msup(mi("L"),mo("`}}L^{-1}\mbox {{\tt `"))`}}
\left( 2\, \left( {s}^{2}+2\,s+5 \right) ^{-2} \right) [/tex]

I cannot figure out what to do with the last term -- I don't know how to put it into a form which i can find the inverse laplace transform for. If someone could please tell me what to do with that I would appreciate it greatly.
 
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Does anyone have any clue at all how I can break up the last term so that I can find an inverse for it? I can't expand it any further with partial fractions and there is nothing else I can think of. Once again, any help at all would be greatly appreciated.
 
  • #3
You might try some of the ones on the bottom of the first page of this: www.srcf.ucam.org/~csh33/Files/Laplace.pdf[/URL]
 
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  • #4
Multiplication in the s-domain is convolution in the time domain.

You already have the factorisation for the polynomial, [tex]s^2+2s+5[/tex].
[tex]L^{-1}\{2\left(\frac{1}{(s+1)^2+4}\right)\left(\frac{1}{(s+1)^2+4}\}\right)[/tex]
=
[tex]2(e^{-t}sin(2t)*e^{-t}sin(2t))[/tex]
 
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  • #5
Thank you for all the help. I read about the convolutions, but this section precedes convolution in the book and so we must solve it without that knowledge. Actually that gives the wrong answer also which is kind of weird. So, I'm still not sure. If anyone has any other suggestions I would appreciate it greatly if you shared them with me!
 
  • #6
Where did you get 2s + 3 on the right of the equation?

[tex]Y(s^{2}+2s+5) = 2\, \left(
\left( s+1 \right) ^{2}+4 \right) ^{-1} +2s+3[/tex]

Given the initial conditions you gave, I get:
[tex]Y(s^{2}+2s+5) = \frac{2}{
(s+1)^{2}+4} +s[/tex]

Before we go further, do you agree?
 
  • #7
I get the following.

Take Laplace transform of the function with your initial conditions:
[tex]Ys^{2}-s+1+2(Ys-1)+5Y=\frac{2}{(s+1)^{2}+4}[/tex]

Rewriting a little we get:
[tex]
Y(s^{2}+2s+5) = \frac{2}{
(s+1)^{2}+4} +s+1
[/tex]

Divide both sides by [tex](s+1)^{2}+4[/tex]

We get this:

[tex]
Y = (\frac{1}{2})\frac{4}{
((s+1)^{2}+4)^{2}} + \frac{s+1}{(s+1)^{2}+4}
[/tex]

Now you need to take the inverse transform: let [tex]g(t)=e^{-t}sin(2t)[/tex] and [tex]g(t)*g(t)=\int^{t}_{0}g(z)g(t-z)dz[/tex] the convolution of g(t) with itself.

[tex]y(t)=(\frac{1}{2})(g(t)*g(t))+e^{-t}cos(2t)[/tex]

Take the convolution (I used a calculator, masochism is is out of style ;) ) and you get:

[tex]y(t) = \frac{-e^{-t}(2tcos(2t)-sin(2t))}{8}+e^{-t}cos(2t)[/tex]

Checking on calculator I get:
[tex]
y(0)=1, y'(0)=-1
[/tex]

and plugging y(t) into the initial equation I get the desired result.

I am not sure how you could solve this without using a convolution because I am not sure what the inverse laplace transform of [tex]
(\frac{1}{2})\frac{4}{
((s+1)^{2}+4)^{2}} [/tex] is otherwise.
 
  • #8
Thank you for all the help exk and Eidos! Yes i haven't been able to do it any other way than using convolution integrals either. That is weird that this question is presented in the book before that section. Once again, thank you.
 
  • #9
exk said:
...
Take the convolution (I used a calculator, masochism is is out of style ;) ) and you get:...

What calculator do you have that can do convolution? :!)
 
  • #10
Eidos said:
What calculator do you have that can do convolution? :!)

Just a rusty old TI-89, convolution is just an integral ;)
 
  • #11
I've only ever heard about those mythical beasts (TI-89), I am used to using non-graphical, non-programmable calculators since those are the only permitted ones in our tests.

I must see about this calculator...
 

What is the Laplace Transform?

The Laplace Transform is a mathematical tool used in engineering and science to transform a function of time into a function of complex frequency. It is particularly useful in solving differential equations and analyzing systems with complex dynamics.

What is the purpose of the Laplace Transform?

The Laplace Transform allows for the simplification of differential equations, making it easier to solve complex problems in engineering and science. It also provides a useful way to analyze the behavior of systems with complex dynamics.

How is the Laplace Transform calculated?

The Laplace Transform is calculated by integrating a function of time multiplied by an exponential term, using complex variables. The resulting function represents the function of complex frequency.

What are the advantages of using the Laplace Transform?

The Laplace Transform can simplify complex differential equations, making them easier to solve. It also allows for the analysis of systems with complex dynamics and can be used to find solutions to problems that are difficult to solve using other methods.

What are some common applications of the Laplace Transform?

The Laplace Transform is commonly used in engineering and science to solve problems involving complex dynamics, such as in electrical circuits, control systems, and signal processing. It is also used in fields such as physics and economics to model and analyze complex systems.

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