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Laws of motion

  1. Sep 21, 2014 #1
    1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

    a spherical ball of mass = 5kg rests between two planes which make angles of 30 degrees and 45 degrees respectively with the horizontal . The system is in equilibrium . find the normal forces exerted on the ball by each of the planes . The planes are smooth .

    2. Relevant equations
    Let Normal force of 30 degree plane be R1 and of 45 degree be R2
    3. The attempt at a solution
    since , the system is in equilibrium i have balanced all the normal forces and equated but the expression is not right .
    The correct answer is R1 - mgsin150 degrees / sin165 degrees
    R2 = mgsin45 degree / sin 165 degrees
     

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  3. Sep 21, 2014 #2

    Orodruin

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    Could you show us your attempt at balancing the forces?

    Generally speaking, which forces are going to act on the ball and in which directions do they act?
     
  4. Sep 21, 2014 #3
    i have made the component of the normal forces acting on the ball from both the planes something like this.
     

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  5. Sep 21, 2014 #4

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    So your first problem would seem to be that your diagram does not look like that in the problem. Instead of taking the 45 degrees from the same direction as the 30 degree angle, you have taken it from a direction 180 degrees away from it. I suggest you look at the picture attached to your first post and make a new attempt.
     
  6. Sep 21, 2014 #5
    sir i have tried hard and did not get the result that's why i am here to clear my doubt please help me by explaining me the concept .
     
  7. Sep 21, 2014 #6

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    I think you already have the concept but have misunderstood the problem. However, I cannot tell for sure unless you correct the misunderstanding in the problem formulation. If you read my previous message, your sketch seems to assume that the angle between the planes is 105 degrees. According to the illustration you attached in your first post, the angle between the planes should be 15 degrees.
     
  8. Sep 21, 2014 #7
    yeah i have tried with that too and got this
     

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  9. Sep 21, 2014 #8

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    I would suggest you to make a more accurate drawing where both planes lean to the right. As it is now, I believe you are confusing yourself with the directions of the forces based on your drawing. Remember that the forces need to be normal to the planes.
     
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