Length of roots in su(2) su(3) and other Lie algebras.

In summary, the conversation discusses equalities from Gordon Brown's work on using the killing form to measure the length of roots in semi-simple algebras. The last equality is a proof of a projector, while the relation between the length 1/√2 and the ladder bosons in the su(2) weak interaction may require more context and information to understand fully.
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I found these equalities from Gordon Brown (1963).
He uses the killing form to measure the length of the roots in a semi simple algebra.
First and second equalities are quite obvious and come from the definition.
Could you help me for the last one which prove that we have a projector?
It is Ʃ_g g(h_a) g(h_b )=Ʃ_g (a,g)(g,b)

He writes that the sum of the squared lengths is the dimension of the Cartan subalgebra.
If we take the su(2) weak interaction, we have two ladder bosons W- W+ (corresponding to opposite roots) adding or substracting one unit to isospin and dim H = 1.
What is the relation with the length 1/√2 he finds for each root?
 
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Hello,

Thank you for sharing these equalities from Gordon Brown's work. It is always interesting to see how different mathematicians approach and solve problems in their respective fields.

To address your question about the last equality, it is indeed a proof that we have a projector. The left-hand side of the equality is the sum of the squared lengths of the roots, while the right-hand side is the sum of the scalar products of the roots with the fundamental weights. This can be interpreted as a projection of the roots onto the fundamental weights, which is why it is referred to as a "projector". This equality is a fundamental result in the study of semi-simple algebras and is often used in the classification of Lie algebras.

As for the relation between the length 1/√2 and the ladder bosons in the su(2) weak interaction, it is not immediately clear without more context and information. However, it is possible that the length 1/√2 is related to the properties of the ladder bosons and their interactions in the su(2) algebra. It would be helpful to look at the specific equations and calculations used by Gordon Brown to better understand this relation.

I hope this helps. Keep exploring and asking questions!
 

1. What is the significance of the length of roots in Lie algebras?

The length of roots in Lie algebras is a fundamental concept that helps us understand the structure and representation theory of these mathematical objects. It is closely related to the Cartan matrix, which encodes the information about the algebra's root system. The length of a root also plays a crucial role in determining the dimension of the algebra, as well as its subalgebras and irreducible representations.

2. How is the length of roots calculated in su(2) and su(3) Lie algebras?

In su(2) and su(3) Lie algebras, the length of a root is determined by the dot product of the root with itself. This is essentially the square of the root's norm, which can be calculated using the Cartan-Killing form. In su(2), all roots have the same length, while in su(3), there are two different lengths for the roots.

3. Is the length of roots the same for all Lie algebras?

No, the length of roots can vary depending on the Lie algebra. In simple Lie algebras, such as su(2) and su(3), all roots have the same length. However, in more complicated Lie algebras, the length of roots can differ, and there can be multiple lengths for the roots.

4. How does the length of roots relate to the Lie algebra's fundamental representation?

The fundamental representation of a Lie algebra is the smallest irreducible representation of that algebra. The length of roots plays a crucial role in determining the dimension of this representation. In general, the dimension of the fundamental representation is equal to the sum of the squares of the lengths of the positive roots in the algebra.

5. Can the length of roots in Lie algebras be negative?

No, the length of roots is always a non-negative real number. This is because the length is determined by the dot product of the root with itself, which is always a positive value. In some cases, the length of a root may be zero, which indicates that the root is a non-compact or imaginary root.

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