Dismiss Notice
Join Physics Forums Today!
The friendliest, high quality science and math community on the planet! Everyone who loves science is here!

News Letters from the front

  1. Oct 13, 2003 #1
    Propaganda. Letters in newspapers across Americam saying how well it's all going in Iraq. Letters from different soldiers, supposedly. Home town boys and girls writing to their local papers. Yet strangely all the letters are identical. Yep, these letters were sent home from the rough and tough front lines at the Whitehouse.

    http://www.theolympian.com/home/news/20031011/frontpage/121390.shtml [Broken]
    Last edited by a moderator: May 1, 2017
  2. jcsd
  3. Oct 13, 2003 #2
    Are we supposed to be surprised? Everything about this war has been a lie, except for the fact that it is going badly...and the Repugnicans even lie about that!
  4. Oct 13, 2003 #3
    Most soldiers read and signed the letter, though they did not write it.
  5. Oct 13, 2003 #4
    Last edited by a moderator: May 1, 2017
  6. Oct 13, 2003 #5


    User Avatar

    Staff: Mentor

    ....and they also agreed with it.

    So much for the lies, Zero.
  7. Oct 13, 2003 #6
    1) You're patriotically clutching at straws. "American is good, damn you!" It seems you will grab for anything to reassure yourself.

    2) Please actually read the articles provided.

  8. Oct 14, 2003 #7
    Uh huh...misinformation intended to decieve IS a lie, Russ...you should be familiar with it, you are conservative, after all. What about the soldier who didn't even know about it? HAnding soldiers a form letter and having them sign it, and then the government misrepresenting it as their own thoughts, is lying, Russ.
    The honest way of doing this would have been to print it as a letter from the unit, and to publish it with all the signatures of the soldiers who agreed with it. To publish it in different newspapers, with the intent to make people believe that the letter was written by the soldier it was attributed to, is dishonest in the extreme.
  9. Oct 14, 2003 #8


    User Avatar
    Science Advisor

    What I find most distressing is that someone is in a position of power sufficient to have this done, but is so stupid as to think they could pull it off. Surely no one could read newspapers from two different cities! You'd need some sort of globe-spanning computerized network to do that!

  10. Oct 14, 2003 #9
    Why not? At some point, 70% of Americans polled believed that Iraq had something to do with 9-11, when all they had to do was use that "globe-spanning computerized network" to know otherwise. There are people who think that the tax cuts for rich people helped the middle class, that Bush has a brain, and that we are 'winning' a 'war on terror'...people believe what they want to believe, especially when they are scared.
  11. Oct 14, 2003 #10


    User Avatar
    Science Advisor

    I guess H. L. Mencken was right. :frown:

  12. Oct 14, 2003 #11
    "Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under."?
  13. Oct 14, 2003 #12


    User Avatar
    Science Advisor

    I was thinking of this one:

    "No one in this world has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people. Nor has anyone ever lost public office thereby. "
    - H. L. Mencken

    Which is often convoluted with:
    "No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public. "
    - H. L. Mencken

    To produce this misquote:
    No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.

  14. Oct 14, 2003 #13
    I have maintained that 'all' is the hook of brainwashing and propaganda...

    ...with the degree of denial being an indication of the depth of the hook.

    But, as long as we are quoting Mencken, allow me;

    “A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant and the crazy crazier.”

    “Freedom of press is limited to those who own one.”

    “Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under.”

    “Truth would quickly cease to become stranger than fiction, once we got as used to it.”

    - H. L. Mencken (1880-1956).
  15. Oct 15, 2003 #14


    User Avatar
    Science Advisor

    I looked at a page of Menken quotes. God how depressingly cynical and accurate they are!

  16. Oct 15, 2003 #15
    Yeah, I can't help but love the guy, haha
Share this great discussion with others via Reddit, Google+, Twitter, or Facebook