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L'Hospital's Rule

  1. Nov 12, 2009 #1
    1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

    lim -> 0 (sin(x)-x) / x^3

    2. Relevant equations

    L'Hospital's Rule

    3. The attempt at a solution

    I could just use L'Hospital's rule since it's 0/0. However, the answer is wrong when I do it that way. What am I missing? It states on the question that it must be rewritten before the ruel can be applied and that it has to be applied more than once.

    Please help.
     
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  3. Nov 12, 2009 #2

    lanedance

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    will have a closer look, but one way to gain better understading about the problem would be to expand the sin in a taylor series about 0....
     
  4. Nov 12, 2009 #3

    lanedance

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    show your L'Hop working, i think it works fine, but has to be applied twice
     
  5. Nov 12, 2009 #4
    I don't see why you'd need to rewrite anything. You just have to argue that

    lim x->0 f/g = lim x->0 f'/g' = lim x->0 f''/g'' = ... is true for the nth derivate as long as the limit of n-1th derivate is either zero or infinite for both f and g.
     
  6. Nov 12, 2009 #5
    The first time applied gives me: (cosx - 1) / 3x^2

    The second: (-sinx) / 6x

    I definitely know this is wrong...
     
  7. Nov 12, 2009 #6
    ... and what would the third give you?
     
  8. Nov 12, 2009 #7
    Third would be -cosx/6
     
  9. Nov 12, 2009 #8

    Gib Z

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    Pretty much what applying L'Hopital's rule does really.
     
  10. Nov 12, 2009 #9

    HallsofIvy

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    And the limit of that as x goes to 0 is ?
     
  11. Nov 12, 2009 #10
    Try expanding sin(x) using the Maclaurin series.
    You will get the answer directly.
     

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  12. Nov 12, 2009 #11
    That's not the answer according to calculators.
     
  13. Nov 12, 2009 #12
    According to Mathematica it is.
     
  14. Nov 12, 2009 #13

    lanedance

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    statements like that, with very little information, are hard to help with...

    show your method & results and explain why you think there is a disconnect, and we can comment/help out...
     
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