Light cones, the NOW, and time dilation

In summary: Your Name] In summary, the conversation in the relativity forum touched upon the concept of light cones and their relationship to time dilation. A light cone is a graphical representation of the possible paths that a beam of light can take in space-time. While time dilation may affect the perception of time, the shape of the cone remains the same. The idea of an absolute "NOW" or a timeless state is not supported by the theory of relativity, as time and space are intrinsically linked. The light cones serve as a representation of this intertwined relationship.
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continued from the thread in relativity forum
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=23408

Now that we are talking about "light cones" it leads me to think that IF mass shares the same centre of time then in a dilated state the cones would flatten

So whilst relativity will argue that absolute time is not valid, an absolute "NOW" is possible. The NOW being timeless. ( nothingness)

The link shows a diagram that attempts to show this using the light cone idea.

The larger more flatter cone suggests a time tension that shows as dilation.

"c" is maintained in both cones but dimensionally the larger flatter cone is dilated.
http://www.paygency.com/lightconesdilation.htm

this is extremely difficult to explain due to the lack of terminology.

The cones are representative of space time...
 
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Thank you for bringing up the concept of light cones and their relation to time dilation. Let's first define what a light cone is. A light cone is a graphical representation of the possible paths that a beam of light can take in space-time. The cone shape is created because the speed of light is constant and is affected by both time and space.

Now, let's address your statement that in a dilated state, the cones would flatten. This is actually not entirely accurate. While it is true that time dilation causes the perception of time to slow down, the cones themselves do not actually flatten. The shape of the cone remains the same, but the rate at which time passes within the cone is affected.

Furthermore, your idea of an absolute "NOW" being possible is not supported by the theory of relativity. In fact, according to relativity, there is no such thing as an absolute "NOW" or a timeless state. Time is a dimension that is inextricably linked to space and cannot be separated from it. This means that the concept of nothingness or a timeless state is not applicable in the context of relativity.

I understand that this can be a difficult concept to grasp and explain, but the key is to remember that time and space are intertwined and cannot be viewed separately. The light cones are a representation of this relationship, and while they may change in appearance due to time dilation, their fundamental shape and purpose remain the same.

I hope this helps clarify some of your ideas and I encourage you to continue exploring the fascinating concepts of relativity and light cones. Keep asking questions and seeking answers, that is what being a scientist is all about.
 

1. What is a light cone?

A light cone is a visual representation of the paths that light particles can take in space-time. It is a 3-dimensional cone shape, with the vertex at the point of emission and expanding outward at the speed of light.

2. How does a light cone relate to the concept of "now"?

In the context of special relativity, the "now" is a subjective concept that depends on the observer's frame of reference. The light cone represents the boundary between events that an observer can see as happening simultaneously with their present moment, and those that they cannot see until a later time.

3. What is time dilation?

Time dilation is a phenomenon in which time appears to pass at different rates for different observers, depending on their relative speeds and positions. It is a consequence of Einstein's theory of special relativity.

4. How does time dilation occur in relation to light cones?

An observer moving at a high speed will see the light cone of another observer as tilted, which means that events that appear simultaneous to one observer will not appear simultaneous to the other. This is due to the fact that the speed of light is constant in all reference frames, and time must adjust accordingly to maintain this constant speed.

5. Can time dilation be observed in everyday life?

Yes, time dilation has been observed in many experiments and is a well-established phenomenon in modern physics. GPS satellites, for example, must account for time dilation in order to maintain accurate time measurements. Additionally, atomic clocks on airplanes have been shown to tick at slightly different rates than those on the ground due to their relative speeds.

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