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Linux? or something else

  1. Nov 16, 2007 #1
    I have a 6 month old off the shelf laptop that is running windows vista. was not my choice to pick vista but it was givien to me. im thinking of putting linux on it or just buying a whole new one that is an apple. but if i would go with linux what one would i want to use i have no prior knowlege of linux.
    the spects are
    1 Gig of ram
    intell dual core (not core 2 duo)
    and stock graphics (what ever intel gives it i dont know what that may be)
     
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  3. Nov 16, 2007 #2
    Which cheese should I eat? Which wine should I buy?
     
  4. Nov 16, 2007 #3
    ok not rly a big help... haha im just asking what type of linux is the best one to start out with so i can learn the program
     
  5. Nov 16, 2007 #4

    mgb_phys

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    Ubuntu is generally the easiest to setup on a desktop system and has a lot of users/support. It can also run live from the CD so you can check it works with the hardware before actually doing an install.
    Choice of linux distro is a bit of a religous/fashion thing - so this post will be followed by a dozen recommending other distos.
     
  6. Nov 16, 2007 #5

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    The first thing you should do is get your terminalogy correct. What you're asking for is a distro based on linux (linux is the kernel). And linux is not a program. Try the term OS instead.
    http://www.linuxdig.com/documents/dictionary.php
     
  7. Nov 17, 2007 #6
    I highly recommend Dzongkha Linux. It's of good quality because it was created by Bhutan's Department of Information Technology. You may have to learn the language & script, though. On the plus side, it's free!

    Wikipedia has more information about the language & its people.
     
  8. Nov 17, 2007 #7
    theres a thread about linux distributions just below this one... you could have just read the answers there instead of waiting for new ones on your thread...
    here it is...
     
  9. Nov 17, 2007 #8
    ok dude chill out its not the end of the world...

    thanks for the ideas to kick around any more distros that you can throw at me would be cool!
    oh one more thing how is the linux distros with networking like is there any major problems? i have only worked with windows on this. i have taken classes on computer networking and telecommunications and a Cisco networking class. so i know a lil bit....
     
  10. Nov 17, 2007 #9

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    Unix is a very network operating system, Sun's motto "the network is the computer"

    The only network problems you are likely to find is wireless cards in some laptops where the makers don't release the specs - but on mainstream machines this is getting rarer.
     
  11. Nov 17, 2007 #10

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  12. Nov 17, 2007 #11

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    Haha, okay. Its just that if you're gonna use something, its best to terminology right. The terms linux and distro aren't synonymous; though they used that way by many.

    If you're gonna invest in a network interface card, its best to look for one that has a chipset that has the linux drivers available. For example, my wireless card with a Prism chipset worked out of the box. Its not really about who makes the card, its just the chipset. Once you know the chipset, its pretty easy to figure out how to get your device to work. In a worst case scenario, you'll have to use your windows drivers on linux through a wrapper called NDIS Wrapper.

    Since you've taken a Cisco class you'll be happy to know that there is a package called Zebra. I had a lot of fun with this package.
    http://www.zebra.org/
    http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache...25+zebra+cisco+linux&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us

    I linked the cached version of a very interesting article from linux-mag. I think they now require you to register to view articles.
     
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  13. Nov 17, 2007 #12
    ok now im getting some VERY helpful feed back...
    robphy -- im gunna use this comp for just experimental and just something i can have fun with.
    ranger -- will linux accept the windows drivers??
     
  14. Nov 17, 2007 #13
    OH and one more thing what about the whole apple thing i have very little experince with that are they any good? any info on them would be helpful!!
     
  15. Nov 17, 2007 #14

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    Do you mean wireless network card drivers? If so, then most of the time, yes. If your chipset is popular, then chances are that the kernel version you've installed already has the correct driver installed and should load the correct modules when the card is inserted. If that doesn't work, you can always google for native linux drivers, or just to see what others have done to get it working. If the previous two yield nothing, then you have no choice but to use NDIS Wrapper. This makes use of your native window drivers by implementing NDIS APIs and linking your windows driver to work under linux. NDIS is a specification for writing device drivers for NICs and windows based machines.

    Does that answer your question?
     
  16. Nov 17, 2007 #15

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    Sorry. What do you mean by this? Are you referring to Apple's operating system?
     
  17. Nov 18, 2007 #16
    i use ubuntu.No problem with that and ur computer specs.well u can always dual boot with ubuntu+XP(not vista) .Yes u can do with vist but i would recommend going back to XP atleast for now
    Get Gutsy Gibbon the newest ubuntu release and u have it all that's there in vista.Yes those eye candies also. and above all u have community support here
     
  18. Nov 18, 2007 #17
    yes it does thanks.
    i mean everything like are they stable? easily upgraded? umm and ya the OS and it seems that they just released a new os "osx" is that gunna act like vista and just be a major pain to work with.

    i was doing some priceing on the apple laptops and found that they have a multi boot option that has windows xp prof. alerady installed... is its good or will only bring down the comp?
     
  19. Nov 18, 2007 #18
    Madsmoke9,

    So your graphics card is intel, what is your wireless card's chipset? If it's intel or atheros, it sounds like your laptop might work right out of the box with Ubuntu Gutsy, all hardware configured. Of course it's your choice which distro you use.
     
  20. Nov 19, 2007 #19
    i dont know what the chip set is and when i try to find it my comp freazes up
    all i know is that i have some generic drivers and i cant up date them b/c windows vista wont let me look for them. its like its got a mind of its own haha!
     
  21. Nov 19, 2007 #20
    Can't you just go to Device Manager? You should be able to get that info there. If not, then boot up a live cd and do "lspci".
     
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