# Living with parents.

1. Apr 3, 2008

### Holocene

At 23, I'm starting to hate it.

Put it this way, if I died right on the spot right now, I'd probably be worth about negative $60,0000. 20. Apr 3, 2008 ### turbo At some point in your life, you have to grow up and take responsibility for your future career-track and personal development. Don't wait. 21. Apr 3, 2008 ### Astronuc Staff Emeritus My wife taught English to a couple who had immigrated from Mexico about 20 years ago. They lived in the barrios of NY City and had never learned English, because folks only spoke Spanish in the neighborhood. The husband had three jobs and the wife had two, and they took care of three children. The worked hard enough for years in an inexpensive and crappy apartment, but they saved up enough to buy a house. When one does not have a huge salary, one has to make sacrifices. I lived in cheap apartments or with roommates in college, and I worked as much as I could on holidays and summers, during my undergrad and graduate programs. I did not take out student loans, and I left graduate school debt free and with part of a small down payment for a house. My parents helped me out because they wanted to repay for some of the support I gave to them to help my siblings in college. I left home when I was 17 and I didn't look back. 22. Apr 3, 2008 ### Cyrus If you want to become a professional pilot, its going to cost you at least$30k to get your CFI rating to build up time. I would look into a school that will give you the whole thing. You might save a few bucks. But flying is god damn expensive.

PS, I also live at home. Which means I come home from my office at school around 12, go to sleep, wake up, and go back to my office.

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23. Apr 3, 2008

### DaveC426913

One of the things about not being a slave is to be able to make one's own decisions, yes? So, why would one want to leave the decision about whether one lives with ones parents - up to the parents?

"Thank you for the offer, but I want your respect as an equal, not as a child of yours."

Don't guess. You do us both a disservice. Attack the argument, not the arguer.

I should qualify. I don't mean to suggest parents should toss their children out in the cold street; if the children have a clear plan to get a specific education, and a plan for their financial independence in a certain timeline, that is certainly something the parents can extend to them. Of course, it is at the pleasure of the parents; the children are still beholden.

But that's not mooching, it's investing in the future.

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24. Apr 3, 2008

### turbo

You've been to my modest little house, Astronuc. The place is tiny and easy to heat and we have 8-9 acres of less-than-prime land. Forunately, we have a nice vegetable garden and have a nephew from who whom we can buy firewood. When you have parents who are just keeping their noses out of the water, you find ways to help them, not suck off their meager assets.

25. Apr 3, 2008

### gravenewworld

Not possible today unless you get a full ride scholarship. I really wish you old timers would stop comparing what it was like when you went to college to what college is like these days. I worked 3 jobs during college and full time during the summer. You know what that was able to pay off? Books, rent, and utilities only. That's it.

You think I want to live at home? I figure if I devote about 70% of all of my disposable income over the next 4-5 years to just paying student loans I will be set free. If I don't do that and move out and decide to rent, it will take me 20+ years to pay off the loans and another 5-10 years after that to even be able to save enough for a down payment on a house. By then I will be 50 before I could even buy a house.

It's funny in America, you are supposed to be kicked out of the house when you turn 18 according to society, but in places in Europe (especially Spain) kids live at their parents house until their mid 30s. I guess they are moochers too.

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