Troubleshooting LM311P Output Issue - Tips and Suggestions

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In summary, the conversation is regarding the use of an LM311P with a collector/emitter output and debugging issues with the circuit. The speaker is experiencing unexpected behavior with the current sinking and sourcing when applying a square wave input, and is unsure of the cause. They suggest grounding the emitter output and pullup the collector with a resistor to +5V to test the output current limiting. It is also recommended to check the voltage needed for the LED and verify that the input voltages are within the common mode range.
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I'm using a LM311P. It is has a collector/emitter output. Because my circuit didn't function the way it should, I started debugging. But not following the input signal.
Hello, all
For this little project, I'm using a LM311P. It is has a collector/emitter output. Because my circuit didn't function the way it should, I started debugging.
With the collector unconnected the emitter (pin 1) still sinks (11 mA) and sources (20 mA) current, when applying a square wave input. I measured mean dc amperage to either rail, so the max is higher. I cannot explain this behavior.
Doing the current measurement on the collector (pin 7) with an unconnected emitter I get 14 mA when sinking, and none when sourcing. But not following the input signal.

Any suggestions what could cause this?
 

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Stonestreecty said:
Summary:: I'm using a LM311P. It is has a collector/emitter output. Because my circuit didn't function the way it should, I started debugging. But not following the input signal.

With the collector unconnected the emitter (pin 1) still sinks (11 mA) and sources (20 mA) current, when applying a square wave input. I measured mean dc amperage to either rail, so the max is higher. I cannot explain this behavior.
The output is designed to be used as a voltage output that drives a load.
If you measure the output current you are testing the output current limiting.
Ground the emitter output, pullup the collector without the LED using a resistor to +5V, measure the output voltage on the collector.
Check the voltage needed by the LED. I cannot read the circuit text.
Check the input voltages and verify they are both in the common mode range. Some input structures invert when one input goes out of CM range.
 

1. What is the LM311P and what is its output issue?

The LM311P is a voltage comparator integrated circuit (IC) used in electronic circuits. Its output issue refers to a problem where the output voltage does not match the expected value, causing the circuit to not function properly.

2. What are some common causes of the LM311P output issue?

The most common causes of the LM311P output issue include incorrect wiring, faulty components, improper power supply, and incorrect biasing of the IC.

3. How can I troubleshoot the LM311P output issue?

First, check the wiring and connections to ensure they are correct. Then, test the components to see if any are faulty. Make sure the power supply is providing the correct voltage and that the IC is properly biased. If the issue persists, consult the IC's datasheet for more specific troubleshooting steps.

4. Are there any tips for preventing the LM311P output issue?

To prevent the LM311P output issue, make sure to carefully follow the IC's datasheet for wiring and biasing instructions. Use high-quality components and ensure the power supply is stable and within the recommended voltage range.

5. Can I replace the LM311P with a different IC to avoid the output issue?

While it is possible to use a different IC in place of the LM311P, it is important to make sure the replacement IC has similar specifications and is compatible with the circuit. It is always best to consult the circuit's design or consult with an expert before making any substitutions.

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