Number of Integers Satisfying 1<log₃(log₂x)<2

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In summary, when raising an exponent to another exponent, you should multiply the exponents right. So 2^{3^{2}} would be 2^{6}.
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How many integers will satisfy x in the inequality:

1< [tex]\log_{3}({\log_{2}{x})}[/tex]< 2

Note: The log there is not multitplied to the other log. The log there I think is read like this, logarithm of logarithm of x to the base 2 to the base 3.

What can be the solution or technique for this one? This was given on a math contest here and was just asked to solve for 20 seconds.
 
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yik-boh said:
How many integers will satisfy x in the inequality:
[tex]1< \log_{3}({\log_{2}{x})} < 2[/tex]

First step:

[tex]3^1 < {\log_{2}{x}} < 3^2[/tex]

Can you find the second step?
 
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I forgot to mention the answer. It's 503.

Trying the step you gave me:

[tex]2^{3}=8[/tex] < x < [tex]2^{6}=64[/tex]

so the new equation would be like this

8 < x < 64

After that, I multiplied 64 to 8. I got 512.

When I got 512, I subtracted [tex]3^{2}[/tex] from 512 then I got 503.

Is my method correct?
 
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Why did you multiply 64 to 8 ?

My method would be:

[tex]2^{3^{1}}<x<2^{3^{2}}[/tex]
=>[tex]2^{3}<x<2^{9}[/tex]
 
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When you raise an exponent to another exponent, you should multiply the exponents right? So [tex]2^{3^{2}}[/tex] would be [tex]2^{6}[/tex].

Please explain to me step by step what to do. I'm still confused. I'm just new to this type of problems.
 
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yik-boh said:
When you raise an exponent to another exponent, you should multiply the exponents right? So [tex]2^{3^{2}}[/tex] would be [tex]2^{6}[/tex].

Please explain to me step by step what to do. I'm still confused. I'm just new to this type of problems.

No. For example, [tex]3^2 = 9[/tex] and [tex] 2^{(3^2)} = 2 ^ 9 = 512[/tex] but [tex]2^6 = 64[/tex]

Therefore, [tex]a^{b^c} \neq a^{bc}[/tex]
 
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Oh thanks for the explanation dude..

So what would I do next after this:

[tex]2^{3}<x<2^{9}[/tex]

to get 503?


Hope you could explain it step by step. Thanks. :)
 
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You could just think about it for a minute :P

Your asking how many integers fall between an interval...
 
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Please correct me if I'm wrong.

After arriving at this one:

8 < x < 512

I transposed 8 to the side of 512 so the equation would be:

x < 512 - 8

x < 504

The number just before 504 is 503. So the answer is, there are 503 possible values for x in order to satisfy the inequality. Which is the right answer.But is my solution and reasoning correct? :)
 
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[tex]1 < \log_3({\log_{2}{x}}) < 2[/tex]

[tex]3^1 < {\log_{2}{x}} < 3^2[/tex]

[tex]3 < {\log_{2}{x}} < 9[/tex]

[tex]2^3 < x < 2^9[/tex]

[tex]8 < x < 512[/tex]

answer 512-8-1=503
 
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yik-boh said:
When you raise an exponent to another exponent, you should multiply the exponents right? So [tex]2^{3^{2}}[/tex] would be [tex]2^{6}[/tex].

Please explain to me step by step what to do. I'm still confused. I'm just new to this type of problems.
[itex](a^ b)^c= a^{bc}[/itex] but [itex]a^{b^c}[/itex] is not.
 
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yik-boh said:
Please correct me if I'm wrong.

After arriving at this one:

8 < x < 512

I transposed 8 to the side of 512 so the equation would be:

x < 512 - 8

x < 504

The number just before 504 is 503. So the answer is, there are 503 possible values for x in order to satisfy the inequality. Which is the right answer.


But is my solution and reasoning correct? :)

yes.
 
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Thanks for the help. :)
 

1. What is the range of values for x that satisfy the given inequality?

The range of values for x is (2³, 2⁶). This means that x can take any value between 8 and 64, excluding the endpoints, to satisfy the given inequality.

2. Can x be a negative number?

No, x cannot be a negative number. Since logarithms are only defined for positive numbers, x must be a positive integer to satisfy the given inequality.

3. How many integers satisfy the given inequality?

The number of integers that satisfy the given inequality is infinite. This is because there are an infinite number of integers between 8 and 64, and any of these integers can be substituted for x to satisfy the inequality.

4. Does x have to be a whole number?

Yes, x must be a whole number or an integer to satisfy the given inequality. This is because the logarithm of a non-integer is not a defined value.

5. What is the significance of the given inequality in mathematics?

The given inequality is significant in mathematics as it shows the existence of an infinite number of solutions within a given range. It also highlights the importance of understanding the properties of logarithms and how they can be used to solve mathematical equations and inequalities.

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