Lorentz Transforms - Understanding Time Dilation & Velocity Slope

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In summary, the slopes for the time and space axes in the second frame, as seen in the first frame, are not equal but inverse. This can be seen by using the Lorentz transformation to map points on the axes in the second frame to the first frame. The x'-axis has a slope of -v while the t'-axis has a slope of -1/v.
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I am new here

didnt find the reply to this before

I hope I get lorentz transformations right

he said, that not only we have to shift placement axis, but also shift time axis

I know that the slope for velocity and time dalation must be same, but what formula to use to prove that the slopes are the same. (time delation formula doesn't work)
 
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I am talking about the slopes for the axes for moving body in coordinate system impied by lorentz transformations

en.wikipedia.org /wiki/Lorentz_transformation

I get not equal slopes using time delation formula
 
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You mean, the slopes for the time and space axes of the second frame, as seen in the first frame? The slopes should not be equal, but inverse, like 2 and 1/2, when expressed in units where c=1 (like x=light-seconds and t=seconds). And what do you mean by "time dilation formula"? How would you calculate slope from the time dilation formula?
 
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I understand how to draw velocity axis as seen in first frame, but about time axis I jut know it must be inverse... OK but why is it inverse
 
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calis said:
I understand how to draw velocity axis as seen in first frame, but about time axis I jut know it must be inverse... OK but why is it inverse
What do you mean by "velocity axis" and "time axis"? Is the velocity axis the x'-axis of the second frame as seen in the first frame, while the time axis is the t'-axis of the second frame? The t'-axis is very simple, it behaves just like an object at rest in that frame (since the t'-axis is a line of constant x' coordinate, and an object at rest in that frame will have a constant x' coordinate)...if the second frame is moving at 0.6c relative to the first, then you'd just draw a line that moves sideways 0.6 light-seconds for every 1 second you go upward, so the slope is just 0.6. The x'-axis is the inverse because it goes sideways 1 light-second for every 0.6 seconds you go upward. You can see this by picking two points on the x'-axis, like (x'=0, t'=0) and (x'=10, t'=0) and then using the Lorentz transform to see where they'd be when drawn in the first frame's (x, t) coordinate system:

x = gamma*(x' + vt')
t = gamma*(t' + vx'/c^2)

(x'=0, t'=0) would be mapped to (x=0, t=0), i.e. the origin, while (x'=10, t'=0) would be mapped to:

x = gamma*(10)
t = gamma*(0.6*10) = gamma*(6)

Since gamma is the same in both cases (it's equal to 1/sqrt(1 - v^2/c^2)), we can see the point will be less far from the origin on the t-axis than it is on the x-axis, by a factor of 0.6. So, the x'-axis drawn in the first coordinate system must be a straight line through the origin which goes up 0.6 seconds for every 1 light-second you move sideways.
 
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To put it a more mathematical way:

For simplicity, use units in which c = 1 so the Lorentz transformation between inertial reference frames S and S' is

[tex]x^{\prime} = \gamma (x - vt)[/tex]

[tex]t^{\prime} = \gamma (t - vx)[/tex]

In S, the x-axis is the set of points that have t = 0. To find the corresponding set of points in S':

[tex]x^{\prime} = \gamma (x - v \cdot 0)[/tex]

[tex]t^{\prime} = \gamma (0 - vx)[/tex]

Combining these two equations gives

[tex]t^{\prime} = -vx^{\prime}[/tex]

which is a straight line through the origin in S', with slope -v.

Returning to S, the t-axis is the set of points that have x = 0. Proceeding similarly to the above, the corresponding set of points in S' is

[tex]t^{\prime} = -x^{\prime} / v[/tex]

which is a straight line through the origin in S', with slope -1/v. The two slopes are reciprocals.
 
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What are Lorentz transforms?

Lorentz transforms are a set of equations developed by Dutch physicist Hendrik Lorentz that describe how time and space coordinates change between two reference frames that are moving at a constant velocity relative to each other.

What is time dilation?

Time dilation is a phenomenon predicted by Einstein's theory of relativity, which states that time will appear to pass slower for an object that is moving at a high velocity compared to an observer at rest. This is a result of the time component in the Lorentz transform equations.

How does velocity affect time dilation?

The higher the velocity of an object, the greater the time dilation will be. This is because as an object approaches the speed of light, the time component in the Lorentz transform equations approaches infinity, resulting in a significant difference in perceived time between the moving object and the observer.

What is velocity slope?

Velocity slope is a term used to describe the rate at which an object's velocity changes over time. In the context of Lorentz transforms, it refers to the slope of the time dilation curve, which measures the change in time dilation as the velocity of an object increases.

What are some practical applications of Lorentz transforms?

Lorentz transforms are used in various fields of science and technology, including physics, astronomy, and engineering. They are essential for understanding the behavior of particles at high speeds, such as in particle accelerators, and for making precise calculations in GPS systems and other technologies that rely on accurate measurements of time and space.

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