Calculating Protonation of Lysine at pH 9.5

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In summary, the conversation discusses the process of calculating the percentage of protonated epsilon amino groups in lysine at pH 9.5. The pKa values of 2.2, 9.0, and 10.5 are given, and the pI is calculated to be 9.75. The speaker also mentions that at this pH, the epsilon amino group is mostly protonated and that a large number is obtained when calculating [A-]/[HA]. Later, there is a discussion about the difference between Ka and pKa and how this affects the calculation. The conversation ends with tips on how to approach similar equations and the similarity between enzyme kinetics and pH titration curves.
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How can I calculate how many percent of the epsilon amino groups in lysine are protonated at pH 9.5?

The pKa values are 2.2, 9.0 and 10.5. I have calculated the pI: 9.75. The epsilon amino is mostly protonated at this value, and also at pH 9.5 I guess.
 
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From the definition of acid dissociation constant:

[tex]K_a = \frac {[H^+][A^-]} {[HA]}[/tex]

you get

[tex] \frac {[A^-]} {[HA]} = \frac {K_a} {[H^+]}[/tex]
 
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Ka = 10.5 gives a really big number for [A-]/[HA]
 
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leopard said:
Ka = 10.5 gives a really big number for [A-]/[HA]

at pH 9.5?
Really?
Big?
[A-]/[HA]?

Shome mishtake? :biggrin:
 
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pH = 9.5 --> [H+] = 3.16E-10

[A-]/[HA] = 10.5/3.16E-10 = 3.32E10
 
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I think your deduction is true after all if Ka = 10.5.



But the premise is false: Ka = 10.5 is not what is given - rather pKa = 10.5 !
 
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leopard said:
Ka = 10.5 gives a really big number for [A-]/[HA]

Do you know what is a difference between Ka and pKa?

Besides, such large numbers happen quite often, pH scale is logarithmic and covers 14 orders of magnitude, not without a reason.
 
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epenguin said:
I think your deduction is true after all if Ka = 10.5.



But the premise is false: Ka = 10.5 is not what is given - rather pKa = 10.5 !

Lol, of course. Then I get Ka = 3.1E10, so that [A-]/[HA] = 1E20. An even larger number. How can I use this to find what percentage has been protonated?
 
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pKa is not log Ka.
 
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- log Ka
 
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So Ka is not 3.1x1010.
 
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You will get there faster if you develop a combination of understanding, intuition and rules of thumb, so you will at least have an idea what answer is reasonable and therefore be able to correct your mistakes which then feeds back to better understanding etc.

At the pH equal to the pK the substance is half protonated. Just one pH unit away, the protons have increased or decreased by a factor 10. You wouldn't expect this to have changed [A-] by a factor like 10E20.

In fact one unit below or above the pK [A-]/[HA] has by the equation given by Borek become 10 or 0.1 . Then e.g. A is not exactly 10% or 90% protonated, but it is easy to work out exactly how much.

Another tip, when students come to enzyme kinetics they often do not realize that they are dealing with much the same equations, at least there is considerable overlap, so that a Michaelis saturation curve has exactly the same form as a pH titration curve if you plot v against log .
 
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1. How is the protonation of lysine determined at pH 9.5?

The protonation of lysine at pH 9.5 can be determined using the Henderson-Hasselbalch equation, which takes into account the pKa of lysine (10.53) and the pH of the solution. By plugging these values into the equation, the degree of protonation of lysine at pH 9.5 can be calculated.

2. What is the significance of the pH 9.5 in calculating protonation of lysine?

The pH of a solution affects the ionization of amino acids like lysine, as the protonation state of the amino group changes with pH. At pH 9.5, the protonation of lysine is less favorable, resulting in a higher proportion of deprotonated lysine molecules.

3. How does the protonation of lysine at pH 9.5 impact its chemical properties?

The protonation state of lysine at pH 9.5 affects its charge and therefore its interactions with other molecules. At a higher pH, lysine is more likely to be deprotonated and therefore have a negative charge, which can influence its ability to form bonds and participate in chemical reactions.

4. Can the protonation of lysine at pH 9.5 vary in different environments?

Yes, the protonation of lysine at pH 9.5 can vary depending on the specific environment it is in. Factors such as temperature, ionic strength, and the presence of other molecules can all influence the protonation state of lysine at a given pH.

5. How is the protonation of lysine at pH 9.5 related to its role in protein structures?

The protonation of lysine at pH 9.5 can impact its interactions with other amino acids in a protein structure, as well as its overall charge and stability. In proteins, lysine is often found in the more basic regions where it can participate in ionic interactions with acidic residues, and its protonation state at pH 9.5 can affect these interactions.

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