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Magnetic Field Problem Help

  1. Sep 27, 2006 #1

    It says on top a particle with postive Charge q=+3UC. Thanks

    All right, i know how to get all the answers which to the other stuff, i just need to know whether or not 7-9 is correct, my reasoning is X will increase since it is postive charge and Y will decrease, If it was Negative then it would be the Opposite. I dont realy know about the Z componet and for Number 5 i think it should be coming out of the page. Thanks
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  3. Sep 27, 2006 #2
    So is there a formula for thi stuff to figure?
  4. Sep 27, 2006 #3


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    Yes, and as far as I can see, the only thing you got right is that the Lorentz force on the positively charged particle is vertical at you out of the page.

    Does your text cover the Lorentz force? What is the vector equation for the Lorentz force? If you don't have it in your study notes or text, maybe try wikipedia first, and then google. The Lorentz force pops up in a lot of E&M work.
  5. Sep 27, 2006 #4
    The force which acts on a moving charge in a magnetic field is perpendicular on both the field and the velocity. So there is, for example, no force and no acceleration in the direction of the field and [itex]v_y[/itex] is constant. To figure it all out you can look at the Lorentz Force:
    [itex] F = q [\vec v \times \vec B ] [/itex], which this particle experiences in the field.
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  6. Sep 27, 2006 #5
    We have no book, Ok so X Would Decrease, Y would Increase and Z would be constant
    since according tho this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Lorentz_force.svg the postive charge will go up the field thus have Y increase, and X decrease. Correct?
    So F= (250*1.8)*3 = 1350 what does that number tell me
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  7. Sep 27, 2006 #6
    Correct. :smile:
  8. Sep 27, 2006 #7
    Can u see if my explanation actually makes sense? Thanks alot i just added something in
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  9. Sep 27, 2006 #8
    Nope, because on the picture the magnetic field comes out of the "paper". Your first answer was correct. Your force isn't correct either.
    Just calculate the Lorentz-Force with the formula above.
  10. Sep 27, 2006 #9
    No. Y is perpendicular to the field, remember? Do it with the formula above, you get the magnitude and even the vecor, with immediately shows you in which directions a force exists.
  11. Sep 27, 2006 #10
    Okay I got it, X-Decrease, Y COnstant, Z Increasing
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  12. Sep 27, 2006 #11
    Sorry, I meant Y is in the direction of the field, of course. You already said that the force points out of the paper. From your picture I'd say that's the z-direction.

    Let's calculate the force on the particle. y is the direction of the field, so

    [itex] \vec{B} = B \vec{e_y} [/itex].

    The velocity is [itex] \vec v= \cos(32)v \vec{e_x}+\sin(32) v \vec{e_y} [/itex].

    So the Lorentz-Force is [itex] \vec F = q[\vec v \times \vec B] = q[(\cos(32)v \vec{e_x}+\sin(32) v \vec{e_y}) \times B \vec{e_y}]=qBv cos(32) \vec{e_z} [/itex]
    What does this tell you?
  13. Sep 27, 2006 #12
    this whole X-Decrease, Y COnstant, Z Increasing
  14. Sep 27, 2006 #13
    Why should the x-velocity decrease? Is there a force?
  15. Sep 27, 2006 #14

    No no force at all, but doesnt the postive 3 UC charge have an effect?

    So X and Y would be Constant and Z increasing

    I guess since The speed of the particle is constant then no force is acting on it.
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  16. Sep 27, 2006 #15
    No. Newton's law: If there's no force, there's no change of velocity. In our case, there is no force in the x- and y-direction, only in the z-direction, so what does this mean?
  17. Sep 27, 2006 #16
    Constant X and Y, ok i tell u what i have another quiz from a previous semster where the Arrow is pointing up like open the arrow 122 degrees more and her answers are X decreases, Y increases and Z is constant. so that is why there was confusion
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