Magnetic Force: Work or No Work?

In summary: So it is ultimately the electric force that is doing the work, not the magnetic force.In summary, the magnetic force cannot do work on a moving charge due to its perpendicular nature to the velocity. However, in a constrained current-carrying wire, the magnetic force creates an electric field which does the work by pulling the wire. Therefore, it is actually the electric force that is doing the work in this scenario.
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it is often said that "magnetic forces can do no work".. but a straight wire segment placed in a magnetic field experiences a force of mag. B*I*L (LaPlace' law) which accelerates it and thus does work.. how can this be true?? is it really an electric force that is doing the work here or what?
 
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If we look at how the magnetic force is calculated from the Lorentz force law:

[tex] \vec{F}_B = q\vec v\times \vec B [/tex]

Because of the cross product, FB and v must be perpendicular.

Recall that the general definition of work done by a force is:

[tex] W_{ab} = \int_a^b \vec{F} \cdot d\vec r [/tex]

Due to the dot product here, you should see that not work is done by a force that is perpendicular to the displacement. However, from the above Lorentz force discussion, this is exactly what we have. So the magnetic force can do no work.

Be careful not to confuse this with the magnetic force's ability to accelerate a charged particle by changing its direction (not speed/kinetic energy). Hope that helps.
 
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Originally posted by broegger
it is often said that "magnetic forces can do no work".. but a straight wire segment placed in a magnetic field experiences a force of mag. B*I*L (LaPlace' law) which accelerates it and thus does work.. how can this be true?? is it really an electric force that is doing the work here or what?
Another excellent question.

Yes, it is an electric force doing the work!

Since, as jamesrc reminds us, the magnetic force on a moving charge is always perpendicular to the velocity, it can do no work. If the charges were free, they would simply spiral. Yet a current-carrying wire experiences a force that can do work. What's different there?

In the wire, the charges are constrained. The magnetic force shifts the charges to one side, until the resulting electric field balances the magnetic force. It is this electric field that pulls the wire.
 

1. What is magnetic force?

Magnetic force is the force that is exerted between two objects due to their magnetic properties. It is a non-contact force that can either attract or repel objects depending on their magnetic orientation.

2. How is magnetic force different from other forces?

Magnetic force is different from other forces because it is a non-contact force, meaning that the objects do not need to be in physical contact for the force to act. It is also a long-range force, meaning it can act over large distances.

3. Does magnetic force do any work?

No, magnetic force does not do any work. Work is defined as a force acting on an object to cause it to move in the direction of the force. Magnetic force may cause an object to change direction, but it does not cause it to move in the direction of the force, therefore it does not do any work.

4. Can magnetic force cause an object to move?

Yes, magnetic force can cause an object to move, but it is not the cause of the movement. The object will only move if there is another force acting on it, such as a gravitational or electric force, that overcomes the magnetic force.

5. How is the strength of magnetic force determined?

The strength of magnetic force is determined by the magnetic properties of the objects involved, such as their magnetic field and orientation. The force also depends on the distance between the objects, with stronger forces occurring at shorter distances.

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