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  1. Feb 19, 2014 #1
    hello, my name is pablo bahler, im from argentina and at the moment i am finishing first year in the physics bachelor of my university. but here the bachelor lasts 5 years so i was considering studying abroad.(university of leipzig). also i have some particular questions about the math subjects in the physics bachelors all around the world. so... to the questions:

    please answer these questions if you are currently doing a bachelor in physics or you know precisely this information.

    1.- In calculus and algebra, do professors evaluate the proof of the theorems in final exams? if you answer please tell me the university that you are going to

    2.-Do you have any information about the level of the university of leipzig in germany? is it good or bad or idk, just say anything you know about this place.(i have the swiss citizenship so i can live and study in eu, but i only speak spanish and english)

    thanks! if a question is not clear please let me know
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  3. Feb 19, 2014 #2
    I believe that in most universities, the math courses that most physics majors take have a focus on computations and calculations rather than proofs, so I highly doubt that the professors will evaluate any proofs in the final exams.

    However, you might decide to take some proof-based math courses such as complex analysis and abstract algebra if you are really interested in mathematical physics or theoretical physics. In this case, then of course you would have to possess excellent proof-writing skills.

    (sources: general knowledge)
  4. Feb 20, 2014 #3
    thank you very much! in my university, physicists share the first years with mathmaticians and the totally torture us with proofs! in calculus 2 i had 70/100 points(minimum to pass is 50) and they failed my exam because i didnt write the proof of a theorem completely good.

    keep the comments coming!
  5. Feb 20, 2014 #4
    In my experience from german universities (not Leipzig though, i have started with a math major in Aachen, later physics major in Cologne), even math courses for physicists tend to be rather rigorous and proof-focussed. Like maybe 70% proofs and 30% calculations in homework exercises, whereas the lectures consist of ~95% theorems and proofs.
    That being said though, you probably wouldn't need to perform incredibly complicated proofs during exams, knowing how to apply major theorems to proof some corollary is the most important part.
    You can take a look at the bachelor programm for physics at Leipzig yourself here: http://www.uni-leipzig.de/~physik/bachelor-physik-ipsp.html [Broken]
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  6. Feb 20, 2014 #5
    I am officially a physics student (in Mexico), and from the 22 math courses I've taken (including this semester), only 3 weren't proof-heavy.
  7. Feb 20, 2014 #6
    but they tested the proofs in the finals?i mean, did you ever had to write a full hard proof as an exam excercise?
  8. Feb 20, 2014 #7
    Yes, and in the most rigorous courses we weren't allowed to use (without proof) results the professor didn't prove in class.
    I really enjoy doing proofs (will switch to applied math in grad school), but I can understand your frustration (many of my friends felt the same).
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