# Mathematicians and physicist underpaid

1. Oct 18, 2005

### Serbian.matematika

Such difficult courses (math & physics) comparing to the many, many other programs but sooooo underpaid comparing to; physiotherapists, electricians, nurses, ultrasound technicians, garbage pickers, etc.

Sooooooo difficult to get a job in those fields (math & physics) and starting salaries are "embarassing".

2. Oct 18, 2005

### WMGoBuffs

During an especially boring classical mechanics lecture, a few of my fellow compatriots and I calculated that we make less than minimum wage as grad students.

You've got to want it! Or so they say

3. Oct 18, 2005

### brentd49

but what exactly is that "less than minimum wage"? is that in addition tuition, living,.. expenses. I've been wondering how much money do you really receive in grad school. I might need to start a seperate post for that, though.

4. Oct 18, 2005

One of my professors was talken to me about grad school students. He said they normally can get tuitions waved and end up making about $9k a year and only work 20 hours a week here. 5. Oct 19, 2005 ### TOKAMAK Hmm... I wonder if my physics degree will help me break into the garbage picking industry... 6. Oct 19, 2005 ### Poop-Loops Believe it or not, garbage collectors make a good living. PL 7. Oct 19, 2005 ### Pengwuino Yah they get a damn good salary.... 8. Oct 23, 2005 ### leon1127$9000/12months/80hours= 9.375
it is about the starting wage if you work in bestbuy at dallas
i am a freshman student in math major, and two of my jobs are paying 8.5 and 10 dollars per hours (unrelated to mathematic, but it requires professional skill).
so yea.... think about it b4 you major in math and science
most students still end up teaching.

Last edited: Oct 23, 2005
9. Oct 23, 2005

$9.38/hour starting wage at best buy???????????? Thats almost 50% higher then the minimum wage 10. Oct 23, 2005 ### Corneo$9 is decent pay for a part time job. I wouldn't plan on starting a family on a $9/hr job. 11. Oct 23, 2005 ### Pengwuino I wouldn't plan on starting a family with a part time job :P 12. Oct 23, 2005 ### HallsofIvy Staff Emeritus I once saw a person wearing a sweatshirt that said "University of Florida Graduate Assistant It's not just a job, it's an indenture!" But where did you get the idea that mathematicians and physicists are underpaid compared to nurses? Nurses don't make nearly as much as they should! (And that's said by a mathematician!) 13. Oct 23, 2005 ### Serbian.matematika Let me tell you; at a local community college salary for a math teacher with 4 yrs experience$39,700.00/yr, and for a nurse with 7 yrs experience \$35.10/hr , in Ontario, Canada. I am not saying that a nurse is overpaid although it is a good money, i am sayiny math graduates are very, very underpaid.

14. Oct 23, 2005

### moose

I remember my friend was getting that working in the stereo/audio department, but he said that others made slightly less(except for geek squad who make even more).

Oh, and it's almost 100% higher than minimum wage ;) I know what you meant though.

15. Oct 23, 2005

### Pengwuino

Wow, thats a sweet deal. I should try to get a job there.

16. Oct 23, 2005

### leon1127

what i would do is to major in math still, then apply a job in bestbuy. Become their market analysist, etc. lol

----------------- what a joke above----------------------
Teacher is always underpaid, but you need to include its benefit, work schedule, paid holiday and etc.
Math (tutor + Educator) are a high paying job, if you want to work after school. lol

17. Oct 23, 2005

### Poop-Loops

Teacher has no benefits unless you love teaching. The work is damn hard. After you're done teaching, you get to plan tomorrow's lessons and grade papers for 30-90 kids. Paid holiday? You won't get to go anywhere, since you can barely make ends meet. Above public schools it gets better, but up to high-school it's a HORRIBLE job.

PL

18. Oct 23, 2005

### Pengwuino

Yah but you don't need to know much and you have a guaranteed job as long as you don't get arrested for kiddie porn or other federal felonies.

19. Oct 23, 2005

### leright

You're forgetting that these grad students also get their tuition paid for, in addition to their stipend!

20. Oct 23, 2005

### leon1127

more percisely, most grad student's tuition are waived.

my calculus teacher never graded a single paper except the paper for school grading system (perhaps it is an unique exception...). But i admit that HS teacher is a horrible job if you get a student like me .
My calculus teacher is a part time teacher in my HS, and she owns a tutor school for SATs and Math. I believe she makes about 4000-5000 a month which isnt bad for a mathematic B.S