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What is the difference between Mathematics and Physics?

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What is the difference between Mathematics and Physics?

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There is a big difference between the two, so if you can't see that difference maybe you should be studying someth...

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Mabey that is why I am here.......... .................................................................................................................................................................................................................

Yes, I am currently talking algebra classes at the local college. I have been looking for a bigger difference or better explanation other than the " one deals with the physical and one dose not need to" answer.

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That isn't really correct either- alot of phyics is proved theoreticly without experimental data. Proved using mathmathiimatics.simon009988 said:

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Well something is never really proven in physics until an experiment confirms it and even at that, its never 100% proven.Cosmo16 said:That isn't really correct either- alot of phyics is proved theoreticly without experimental data. Proved using mathmathiimatics.

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Well, you have Applied and Theoritical Physics... don't forget that.Pengwuino said:Well something is never really proven in physics until an experiment confirms it and even at that, its never 100% proven.

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Ummm...no. Physical theories are formulated mathematically to describe the physical world. That doesn't mean that anything has been "proved" about physics though. If they are good theories, then they should be predictive, i.e. one should be able to go out and do an experiment that may or may not bear out the predictions of the theory. If it does, then that lends credence to the theory. On the other hand, if it the experimental results are inconsistent with the theoretical predictions, the theory is scrapped,Cosmo16 said:That isn't really correct either- alot of phyics is proved theoreticly without experimental data. Proved using mathmathiimatics.

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I can't tell you that, but i can tell you the similarity between Theoretical Physics and Mathematics: they have isomorphic Lie algebras...:tongue2:ramstin said:What is the difference between Mathematics and Physics?

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Way over my head. O.k. so Physics is the modeling of the physical world. Mathematics deals with theories and logic to prove something. Once you get into Theoretical Physics then you start to blur the line between the two. Is this correct?

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The goals are the same. Make sure you pass the exams.

The contents will surely be abit of this and abit of that.

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Mathematics is the study of maths, phyics the study of physics, there really is no nice absolute clean line drawn between the two, and no nice set of rules for saying what either one is (we can usually say what it isn't). But as someone once said: i might not be able to define it but i know it when i see it.

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and if you can observe this, every physics scientist is a mathematics scientist also, like Gauss, Airy, Fresnel, ... and too many others, while you can't see or in little cases that chemistry people aren't friends with maths or physics, and the one who hate mathematics will hate also physics

AND TAKE THIS FOR NOTE, THE PHYSICIST WHO HATE OR DON'T LIKE MATHEMATICS IS A LOOOOOOSER, AND CAN DO NOTHING WITH HIS SCIENCE :P thanks for reading my nonsense :P:P:P:P

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But someone who experiments with, say, semiconductors is not in general attempting to prove anything about mathematics, nor contribute to the study of mathematics as a subject.

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what is "the study of mathematics"?

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where as physics just use math as tools that seem to fit and predict outcomes of the physical world

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where do these "numbers ,shapes, etc" come from?

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I do not believe that any bits of my brain is out of this world.

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Sorry,the use of "proved" that was more word choice then anything else. It was a horrible one though.cepheid said:Ummm...no. Physical theories are formulated mathematically to describe the physical world. That doesn't mean that anything has been "proved" about physics though. If they are good theories, then they should be predictive, i.e. one should be able to go out and do an experiment that may or may not bear out the predictions of the theory. If it does, then that lends credence to the theory. On the other hand, if it the experimental results are inconsistent with the theoretical predictions, the theory is scrapped,even thoughit was mathematically correct and self-consistent. I hope that this illustrates the difference between science and mathematics.

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He seemed to have invented quite a bit of math and held the chair of mathematics at Cambridge. It was Leibniz, who said, "Taking mathematics from the beginning of the world to the time when Newton lived, what he did was much the better half."

Yet it is true that he did not publish in pure math, and often ignored in math books.

This may have bearing on what is being discussed in this thread.

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Mathematicians, on the other hand, are rarely involved with making weapons. They do know that what they create might well be used to make weaponry. This bothers the heck out of them even though this probably will not happen until long after they die.

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I don't know exactly how true this is. There have been plenty of people with math degrees who have worked on weapons. (Then there is the area of cryptology, which prefers mathematicians.) On the most creative level, no. Research in math is impractical and removed from the finished product in many cases. The military prefers engineers for most of it.

There is the case of Norbert Weiner. He is supposed to have developed the "heavy math" involved in the InterContinental Ballistic Missile, if I remember right. But no one makes a point of that today. Weiner says this:

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