Solving Matrix/Error Proof? Get a Hint Here!

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In summary, the conversation is discussing a proof related to approximation errors. The first part involves taking the norm of both sides of an equation and substituting in values to get infinite multiples. The second part involves establishing a relationship between two equations and solving for the norm in terms of the difference between the two equations. The question also asks for clarification on whether the equations should be rearranged in a specific order.
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Not too sure what this proof would be under, but am pretty sure it has to do with approximation errors, can anyone give me a hint as to how to even start this?


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For the first one, my guess at the solution would be...

1)take the norm of both sides of x = Tx + b
2) then substitute in x^k = Tx^(k-1) + b into the x's
3)since x^k = Tx^(k-1) + b, we get norm( x^k = T(Tx^(k-1) + b) + b), which then we get infinite multiples of T. Hence T^k?

That's really wild guess at the solution, any help would be much appreciated
 

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for the first part you might look at something like
|xk+1 - x| = |(Txk + b) - (Tx + b)| = |T(xk -x)|
and continue till k->0.


for the second, maybe try to establish something like
|xk - x| <= ||T|| |xk-1 - x| <= ||T|| ( |xk-1 - xk| + |xk - x|).

Then solve for |xk - x| in terms of |xk-1 - xk|.

And then try to figure out how to go from
|xk-1 - xk| to |x0 - x1|.
 
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qbert said:
for the first part you might look at something like
|xk+1 - x| = |(Txk + b) - (Tx + b)| = |T(xk -x)|
and continue till k->0.for the second, maybe try to establish something like
|xk - x| <= ||T|| |xk-1 - x| <= ||T|| ( |xk-1 - xk| + |xk - x|).

Then solve for |xk - x| in terms of |xk-1 - xk|.

And then try to figure out how to go from
|xk-1 - xk| to |x0 - x1|.
Dear qbert

For the 2nd part of the question. Are we meant to figure out how to go from |xk - xk-1| to |x1 - x0| rather than the given above |xk-1 - xk| to |x0 - x1|

my attempt at the question is as follows

||x(k) - x|| <= ||T|| ||x(k-1) - x(k)|| + ||T|| ||x(k) - x||

||x(k) - x|| - ||T|| ||x(k) - x|| <= ||T|| ||x(k-1) - x(k)||

||x(k) - x|| (1 - ||T||) <= ||T|| ||x(k-1) - x(k)||

solving for ||x(k) - x|| <= (||T||/(1 - ||T||)) ||x(k-1) - x(k)||

hence my query above.

Kind regards,
kcp
 
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qbert said:
for the first part you might look at something like
|xk+1 - x| = |(Txk + b) - (Tx + b)| = |T(xk -x)|
and continue till k->0.


for the second, maybe try to establish something like
|xk - x| <= ||T|| |xk-1 - x| <= ||T|| ( |xk-1 - xk| + |xk - x|).

Then solve for |xk - x| in terms of |xk-1 - xk|.

And then try to figure out how to go from
|xk-1 - xk| to |x0 - x1|.


Dear qbert

For the 2nd part of the question. Are we meant to figure out how to go from |xk - xk-1| to |x1 - x0| rather than the given above |xk-1 - xk| to |x0 - x1|

my attempt at the question is as follows

||x(k) - x|| <= ||T|| ||x(k-1) - x(k)|| + ||T|| ||x(k) - x||

||x(k) - x|| - ||T|| ||x(k) - x|| <= ||T|| ||x(k-1) - x(k)||

||x(k) - x|| (1 - ||T||) <= ||T|| ||x(k-1) - x(k)||

solving for ||x(k) - x|| <= (||T||/(1 - ||T||)) ||x(k-1) - x(k)||

hence my query above.

Kind regards,
kcp
 

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