Proving Matrix Symmetries of A with Inverse Matrix

In summary, The conversation discusses a matrix A which satisfies a symmetry property involving a parameter B. The speaker wants to prove that the inverse matrix of A also satisfies the same symmetry property, but has been unsuccessful. They discuss using the summation convention and the inverse matrix to show that the sum of each row and column of the inverse matrix is 1. They also mention using a parameter -B to reach the desired result. The other speaker expresses admiration for the elegant solution.
  • #1
shomey
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I have a matrix A which satisfies: A_ij(+B) = A_ji (-B)
(the matrix is a 4x4 matrix)
EDIT: i also know that each row and line summes to 1.
i want to prove that the inverse matrix of A sattisfies the same symmetry property. (But, with no success)

Do you have an idea how to do that?

thanks allot,
Ron
 
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What is this (+B) and (-B) ?

do you mean [tex]A_{ij} + B = A_{ji} - B[/tex] ?

marlon
 
  • #3
marlon said:
What is this (+B) and (-B) ?

do you mean [tex]A_{ij} + B = A_{ji} - B[/tex] ?

marlon

sorry, i really didn't explain that...
all matrix elements are functions of B...
so - in the left side you enter +B, and in the right side, you enter -B
 
  • #4
Let D be the inverse, what do we know?

i will use summation convention, ie a repeated index is summed

A_ij D_jk = d_ik (delta 1 if i=k 0 otherwise)


now if i sum over i too it follows that the sum D_jk over j is 1, so that the sum of each column is 1 and similialy, by considering DA rather than AD it follows that the sum over each row of D is one.

as for the other part, I know that

A(b)D(b)=Id =D(b)A(b)

so i can set b as -b if i feel like it and we still know

D(-b)A(-b)=Id

and i can transpose it

A^t(-b)D^t(-b)=Id

and i know that i can replace A^t(-b) with A(b), now i can reach the result i want.
 
  • #5
matt grime said:
Let D be the inverse, what do we know?

i will use summation convention, ie a repeated index is summed

A_ij D_jk = d_ik (delta 1 if i=k 0 otherwise)


now if i sum over i too it follows that the sum D_jk over j is 1, so that the sum of each column is 1 and similialy, by considering DA rather than AD it follows that the sum over each row of D is one.

as for the other part, I know that

A(b)D(b)=Id =D(b)A(b)

so i can set b as -b if i feel like it and we still know

D(-b)A(-b)=Id

and i can transpose it

A^t(-b)D^t(-b)=Id

and i know that i can replace A^t(-b) with A(b), now i can reach the result i want.


That's great! So ellegant...
thanks allot!
 

What is a matrix symmetry?

A matrix symmetry is a property of a matrix where it remains unchanged when reflected over its main diagonal.

How do you prove matrix symmetries?

To prove matrix symmetries, you need to show that a matrix A is equal to its transpose, AT. This can be done by comparing the corresponding elements of A and AT and showing that they are equal.

What is an inverse matrix?

An inverse matrix is a matrix that, when multiplied with its original matrix, results in the identity matrix. In other words, it "undoes" the original matrix.

How do you use an inverse matrix to prove matrix symmetries?

To prove matrix symmetries using an inverse matrix, you can show that the inverse of matrix A, A-1, is equal to its transpose, AT. This implies that A is a symmetric matrix.

Are there any other methods for proving matrix symmetries?

Yes, there are other methods such as using row and column operations to show that the matrix is equal to its transpose, or using the fact that the dot product of two symmetric matrices is always symmetric. However, using inverse matrices is a commonly used and straightforward method for proving matrix symmetries.

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