What caused the asymmetry between matter and antimatter in the early universe?

In summary: Standard Model particle, so all of them were basically in equilibrium, with particle-antiparticle pairs being continually created and destroyed but with the average amount of each not changing. But as the universe expanded and cooled, the temperature gradually dropped below the rest mass of various particles; and once the temperature is well below the rest mass of a particle, any existing particle-antiparticle pairs will be annihilated but no new ones will be created.This is why the total charge is conserved and doesn't change over time. The total charge is equal to the product of the charge of each particle and the total number of particles. The total charge is
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What does quantum mechanics have to say about this aspect?
Matter usually differs by antimatter having opposite charge.
It is said that the Universe in the early stages should have created equal amounts of matter and antimatter.

The total charge is conserved no matter the interactions and if we go back in time indefinitely the universe has always been neutral. If in the early stages the universe was all EM radiation, the total charge had to be zero. This is also means a charge symmetry which feels a more natural course. But the can reason we don't have matter-antimatter symmetry have do with the randomness of nature. A classical universe would have evolves perfectly symmetrical. The whole Universe would've been a perfect sphere growing ( it doesn't matter how you model it, it remains classical). But in quantum terms, if we restarted the universe like 1000 times, would it go ~50% of times with more matter and ~50% times more antimatter? If this is the case it is extremely unlikely to be go equal parts. Can we apply this principle?

For example we flip a coin for like
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10^{20}
times. We will get a ~50/50 ratio. However, in absolute values we can have something like
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5.000001•10^{19}
tails and
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4.999999•10^{19}
heads. But
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0.000001 • 10^{19}
is very large and would be equivalent to the matter left in the Universe.
 
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calinvass said:
A classical universe would have evolves perfectly symmetrical. The whole Universe would've been a perfect sphere
That amounts to a personal theory. We don't know the shape of the universe and it might well have been (and still be) infinite in extent in which case it has no shape.
 
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That amounts to a personal theory. We don't know the shape of the universe and it might well have been (and still be) infinite in extent in which case it has no shape.

It is only an example in classical terms related to the Big Bang theory. Classical physics works accepts infinite precision in principle so if you start with a symmetrical system, the symmetry is preserved all the time. We know classical physics doesn't hold at fundamental levels.
 
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calinvass said:
It is said that the Universe in the early stages should have created equal amounts of matter and antimatter.

Where is that said?

Bear in mind that we know about at least one kind of interaction--the weak interaction--that is not time reversal symmetric. We also know, of course, that our universe has no appreciable antimatter in it, at least not in any of the parts we can observe. So our actual universe does not appear to be matter-antimatter symmetric in this sense.

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If in the early stages the universe was all EM radiation

It wasn't.

calinvass said:
reason we don't have matter-antimatter symmetry have do with the randomness of nature

We're not sure, because we don't know exactly why our universe (or at least the observable part) has matter but no appreciable antimatter. This is an open area of research.
 
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Here is an example:

https://press.cern/backgrounders/matterantimatter-asymmetry

I've heard many theoreticians physicists saying the universe is dominated by matter because after the it is what it has left after some period of annihilation processes. I don't know if this is very well documented, but at least doesn't seem suspicious.
 
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calinvass said:
I've heard many theoreticians physicists saying the universe is dominated by matter because after the it is what it has left after some period of annihilation processes.

That's true, but it doesn't explain why there was an excess of matter left over. A heuristic description of the basic idea is this: at the extremely high temperatures of the early universe, the temperature was much, much larger than the rest mass of every Standard Model particle, so all of them were basically in equilibrium, with particle-antiparticle pairs being continually created and destroyed but with the average amount of each not changing. But as the universe expanded and cooled, the temperature gradually dropped below the rest mass of various particles; and once the temperature is well below the rest mass of a particle, any existing particle-antiparticle pairs will be annihilated but no new ones will be created.

So if there are equal numbers of particles and antiparticles, on average, to start with, you would expect none of that particle to be left over once the temperature drops low enough--all that would be left is the radiation (primarily photons) produced by the annihilations. But that's not what we observe: we observe that there is still matter left over, now, when the temperature of the universe is only a few degrees Kelvin, way, way below the rest mass of every matter particle (electrons and quarks). So there must have been some initial asymmetry that favored matter, for any of it to be still left over now.
 
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That's true, but it doesn't explain why there was an excess of matter left over. A heuristic description of the basic idea is this: at the extremely high temperatures of the early universe, the temperature was much, much larger than the rest mass of every Standard Model particle, so all of them were basically in equilibrium, with particle-antiparticle pairs being continually created and destroyed but with the average amount of each not changing. But as the universe expanded and cooled, the temperature gradually dropped below the rest mass of various particles; and once the temperature is well below the rest mass of a particle, any existing particle-antiparticle pairs will be annihilated but no new ones will be created.

So if there are equal numbers of particles and antiparticles, on average, to start with, you would expect none of that particle to be left over once the temperature drops low enough--all that would be left is the radiation (primarily photons) produced by the annihilations. But that's not what we observe: we observe that there is still matter left over, now, when the temperature of the universe is only a few degrees Kelvin, way, way below the rest mass of every matter particle (electrons and quarks). So there must have been some initial asymmetry that favored matter, for any of it to be still left over now.

Just to add to PeterDonis' excellent description: if there were no initial asymmetry of some kind, then you also might expect that as a worst case scenario that there are regions of the universe in which anti-matter dominated while in other regions (such as the Milky Way and everything near us) it is matter dominated. The idea being that the net amount of (matter - antimatter) is very nearly zero. Were that true, then there would ALSO be regions which were anti-matter dominated regions that were close to matter dominated regions. And if that were true, we would see all KINDS of radiation from the annihilation of the matter and anti-matter at such boundaries as those regions interact. We don't observe such signature by-products, so we conclude there are no such "boundary" regions at this time. Ergo, essentially everything in the observable universe is matter.
 
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What is matter-antimatter asymmetry?

Matter-antimatter asymmetry is a phenomenon in physics where there is an unequal amount of matter and antimatter in the universe. This means that for every particle of matter, there is no corresponding antiparticle, and vice versa.

Why is matter-antimatter asymmetry important?

Matter-antimatter asymmetry is important because it helps explain why the universe is mostly comprised of matter. If equal amounts of matter and antimatter had been created during the Big Bang, they would have annihilated each other, leaving only radiation behind. The fact that there is more matter than antimatter suggests that there was a fundamental asymmetry in the early universe.

How is matter-antimatter asymmetry studied?

Scientists study matter-antimatter asymmetry by observing the behavior of subatomic particles and their antiparticles. They also conduct experiments using particle accelerators to recreate the conditions of the early universe and observe how matter and antimatter interact.

What is CP violation and how does it relate to matter-antimatter asymmetry?

CP violation is a phenomenon in physics where there is a difference in the behavior of particles and their antiparticles. This is directly related to matter-antimatter asymmetry because it suggests that there may be a fundamental difference between matter and antimatter that allows for the creation of more matter than antimatter in the universe.

What are the current theories explaining matter-antimatter asymmetry?

There are several theories that attempt to explain matter-antimatter asymmetry, including the Sakharov conditions, which propose that a violation of three fundamental principles (CP violation, baryon number violation, and out-of-equilibrium processes) could lead to an imbalance between matter and antimatter. Another theory is that the universe went through a phase of inflation, which may have favored the production of more matter than antimatter. However, the exact cause of matter-antimatter asymmetry is still a subject of ongoing research and debate in the scientific community.

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