MC: Chemistry Ideal Gas vs Real Gas

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around a homework problem regarding the behavior of real gases compared to ideal gases, specifically under conditions of constant temperature and varying volume. Participants explore the implications of volume changes on gas behavior, focusing on concepts related to molecular interactions and kinetic theory.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that increasing the volume of a gas decreases its pressure, which is relevant to understanding how real gases behave more like ideal gases at lower pressures.
  • Another participant suggests that ideal gases have no size and questions how to minimize the significance of the physical size of real gas molecules.
  • A different participant proposes that separating gas molecules could reduce intermolecular attractions, which may influence their behavior.
  • One participant expresses confidence in selecting option C as the correct answer, while questioning the relevance of kinetic energy and molecular speed in relation to volume changes.
  • Another participant agrees that at larger volumes, the molecules occupy a smaller percentage of the container, leading to fewer collisions among them.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the correct answer to the homework question, as participants express differing views on the implications of volume changes and the correct answer choice.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the relationship between volume, pressure, and molecular interactions without resolving the underlying assumptions about ideal versus real gas behavior.

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Homework Statement



24. At constant temperature, the behavior of a sample of a real gas more closely approximates that of an ideal gas as its volume is increased because the:
a. Collisions with the walls of the container become less frequent
b. Average molecular speed decreases
c. Average distance between molecules becomes greater
d. Average molecular kinetic energy decreases


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The Attempt at a Solution


I know when volume is increased, pressure is decreased (due to constant temp). And real gases behave most like ideal gases at low pressure. And real gases have small volume.. so I'm confused.
Through process of elimination I came to the answer of C. I'd like to know if it is correct and/or if there is a better way of approaching the problem.

Thanks so much! =]
 
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Ideal gases have no size - if you have a container of real molecules what can you do to make their physical size less important?
 
separate them so they experience no charge/attraction on each other?
I still feel like the answer is C, am i incorrect?The only possible choices are A and C

kinetic energy is effected by temp and speed has nothing to do with volume..?
 
Correct - at larger volumes (ie lower pressure) the the molecules take up a smaller percentage of the container and so are less likely to hit each other.
 

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