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Media Idiocy

  1. Jun 23, 2008 #1

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    First thing when I wake up is to put on 'Canada AM'. Imagine my dismay when they held an interview with Ben Stein this morning... and treated him as if he were a mentally functional human. That's something that I would have expected from Fox, but not a reputable news organization. Shame on my homeland. :mad:
     
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  3. Jun 23, 2008 #2
    He's not that incompetent. I have no idea of what his views are but he has some political background, which is a lot more than most celebs can say.

    EDIT:
    Ah, I just read some of his viewpoints. Never mind above statement.
     
  4. Jun 23, 2008 #3
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Stein


    When I've heard him talk, he's always sounded mentally functional...
     
  5. Jun 23, 2008 #4

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    Except perhaps his views on Intelligent Design and creationism?
     
  6. Jun 23, 2008 #5
    Also from wikipedia:

    Stein: When we just saw that man, I think it was Mr. Myers, talking about how great scientists were, I was thinking to myself the last time any of my relatives saw scientists telling them what to do they were telling them to go to the showers to get gassed … that was horrifying beyond words, and that’s where science — in my opinion, this is just an opinion — that’s where science leads you.

    Crouch: That’s right.

    Stein: …Love of God and compassion and empathy leads you to a very glorious place, and science leads you to killing people.

    Crouch: Good word, good word.
     
  7. Jun 23, 2008 #6

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    And 2+2=......?
     
  8. Jun 23, 2008 #7
    This reminds me of an old joke. A man is involved in a fender bender. He turns to his wife and says "darned women drivers". His wife says "I think the driver is a man.". He says "Well he drives like a woman."

    Even so, and notwithstanding how poor TV news is, Fox really is a cut below.
     
  9. Jun 23, 2008 #8
    I suppose I've never heard him talk about ID and creationism...

    I retract my statements fully.
     
  10. Jun 23, 2008 #9
    Well...

    Bill O'Reilly and Ben Stein on Creationism:
     
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  11. Jun 23, 2008 #10

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    Is there a point to that question? :confused:
     
  12. Jun 23, 2008 #11

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    :bugeye:
     
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  13. Jun 23, 2008 #12
    It was going *OK* until about 2 minutes in (that's when he started talking about how "terrible" it is that scientists were fired/denied funding/whatever when they started bringing up intelligent design).

    EDIT: Wow it's getting worse and worse. GAHHHHH it's STILL getting worse. It ends in 30 seconds.... Let's see if it gets worse. Ehhh more of the same.

    Ben Stein started by talking about how he believes that there are holes in darwinism and that creationism may answer some questions... Then he got worse by misleading information saying scientists are being punished for questioning darwinism. Then he got even worse by actually saying factually incorrect information...

    EDIT2: I should add that I usually agree with Bill O'Reilly, but definitely not here...
     
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  14. Jun 23, 2008 #13
    Someone, toss that man a dry beach ball!

    Eh, I like Ben. Even if he is misinformed, who wouldn't enjoy dinner and a hayride with the man? As for Bill O'Reilly, he's definitely one of the few men I'd enjoy getting into a bar room brawl with.

    *pokes Bill's eye out with intelligently designed fist*
     
  15. Jun 23, 2008 #14
    A good time with Bill Stein? Have you heard the man talk? Maybe if he kept his mouth shut and paid for dinner it would be alright.
     
  16. Jun 23, 2008 #15

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    It's quite possible, since I believe that Bilstein is a casino in Vegas. Ben Stein, on the other hand, is a waste of skin.
     
  17. Jun 23, 2008 #16
    I was jesting. I have heard him talk, yes. He also doesn't believe in GW or deforestation.

    Regardless of differing views and ideas, I'm still capable of respecting another's opinion and getting along with him. He's a nice guy and quite fun to be around, I think. I wouldn't turn down any such offer.

    Unless he spent the night going on about that nonsense. In which case I'd be looking for an exit.
     
  18. Jun 24, 2008 #17
    I never understood this point of view. Why should I respect someone else's opinion? Just because they have one? Need I remind you that some 40% of the USA believe God created all of Earth just the way we are in 6 days time? That's an opinion, and one I cannot bring myself to respect.
     
  19. Jun 24, 2008 #18
    Here is part of that video on youtube.
     
  20. Jun 24, 2008 #19

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    The correct answer is "What do you want it to be? :biggrin:
     
  21. Jun 24, 2008 #20

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    I'm all for the first amendment (freedom of speech = freedom to express one's opinions verbally), but O'Reilly goes beyond that when he asserts what Bill Maher or Christopher Hitchens would say in response to Stein's comments. Attributing future words to other people is simply wrong.
     
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