# News Mexican Drug War

1. Jun 5, 2010

### GRB 080319B

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=126906809" [Broken]

- Edgardo Buscaglia, professor of Mexican law and organized crime expert at ITAM and Columbia University.

-- Edgardo Buscaglia

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2. Jun 6, 2010

### aquitaine

I've heard rumors the drug war has been spilling over the border into the southwestern border states. Can anyone confirm this?

3. Jun 6, 2010

### SW VandeCarr

I've read news reports of Mexican nationals being attacked in the US. It's sometimes difficult to sort out crimes committed by drug cartels and "regular" crime.

4. Jun 7, 2010

### chemisttree

It really doesn't take much effort to http://www.elpasotimes.com/newupdated/ci_11770847" [Broken]

or http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/24/world/americas/24iht-mexico.1.20393351.html" [Broken]
or http://www.themonitor.com/articles/robbing-38763-cartel-zapata.html" [Broken]
or http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jun/03/world/la-fg-mexico-cash-20100603" [Broken]
or http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,509042,00.html"

But http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29516551/" [Broken]

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5. Jun 7, 2010

### Galteeth

You know, there is an extremely obvious solution to this problem...

6. Jun 8, 2010

### TubbaBlubba

I'll take a guess at the old libertarian "Legalize drugs to destroy the mafia".

7. Jun 8, 2010

### TubbaBlubba

On a basic level I can agree with the legalization of pot compared to alcohol, but on the other hand I'm no great supporter of alcohol either, and pot is like the highway to lung cancer... But if it was legal, at least filtered smokes could be made to make it slightly less dangerous.

8. Jun 8, 2010

### chemisttree

You want armies of dangerous animals with guns out of work with the stroke of a pen? NIMBY!! Did organized crime go away when we repealed prohibition?

9. Jun 8, 2010

### TubbaBlubba

Marijuana is no where near as common in Sweden as in the US (though still not exactly RARE, but I would have no idea where to get it)

10. Jun 8, 2010

### Ivan Seeking

Staff Emeritus
The legalization of drugs has had strong support from the most conservative elements of the US political arena.

Legalizing drugs would not only eliminate the funding mechanism for much of organized crime, but the financial benefits, through taxation and the reduced costs of law enforcement and incarceration, would be worth billions of dollars annually.

Organized crime turned in part to illegal drugs when prohibition ended. Drugs are now the bread and butter of organized crime.

I believe that drug laws are responsible for much if not most of the violent crime that we have today. They are destroying our cities and culture. Why would any young man in the ghetto choose to work hard for $10 per hour, when they can make$1000 a day or more by selling drugs? We also see the results of drug laws in our border States - utter chaos.

But above all, it is painfully obvious that drug laws don't work. They are the folly of fools and control freaks.

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11. Jun 8, 2010

### Galteeth

Crime will never go away, but it can certainly be reduced. The gangs wouldn't disappear overnight, but by limiting revenue sources, they will shrink.

As I believe they did after prohibition was repealed.

12. Jun 8, 2010

### Galteeth

People still use heroin. You can't stop demand by trying to reduce supply. It just doesn't work that way. All you do is create income sources for bad people.

13. Jun 10, 2010

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14. Jun 10, 2010

### skeptic2

One always has to be careful of propaganda put out by both sides after incidents like this. What is human trafficking anyway, showing some illegals the right hole in the fence to crawl through? If true, why was he never charged and how would that reduce the Border Patrol agent's guilt?

The other side claims he was a straight A student but I never saw any report cards offered as evidence.

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15. Jun 11, 2010

### Galteeth

That claim does not seem particularly relevant to anything.

16. Jun 11, 2010

### skeptic2

Nor does the claim that he had a history of involvement with human smuggling and was on a list of repeat juvenile offenders.

17. Jun 11, 2010

### edward

18. Jun 11, 2010

### skeptic2

In so doing, they have given Mexicans, whether they be coyotes or federales, an excuse (in their minds) to shoot at Border Patrol agents.

19. Jun 11, 2010

### SW VandeCarr

I think the issue is whether shooting and killing him was justified. His status in life has nothing to do with it.

20. Jun 11, 2010

### drankin

Nobody has an excuse to shoot at Border Patrol agents. It's just been clarified that they will shoot if attacked.