Help Me Solve Missing Step in Characteristic Equation

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In summary, the conversation discusses a control theory problem involving the characteristic equation and simplifying algebraic steps. The solution involves multiplying both sides by (s^2+6s+20)(s+8).
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I'm not sure why I can't see what step is occurring here, but I could use some help:

[tex]G(s) = \frac {30}/{(s^2 + 6s +20)}[/tex]

[tex]H(s) = \frac {k} /{s+8}[/tex]

Characterisic equation: [tex]1+ G(s)H(s)[/tex]

So,

[tex]1 + \frac ({30k} /{(s^2+6s+20)(s+8))} = 0[/tex]

Then, the step I'm not sure about:

[tex](s^2+6s+20)(s+8) + 30k = 0[/tex]

How do I get to that step? For some reason I can't see the simple algebra that is used.
 
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Maxwell said:
I'm not sure why I can't see what step is occurring here, but I could use some help:

[tex]G(s) = \frac {30}{s^2 + 6s +20}[/tex]

[tex]H(s) = \frac {k} {s+8}[/tex]

Characterisic equation: [tex]1+ G(s)H(s)[/tex]

So,

[tex]1 + \frac{30k} {(s^2+6s+20)(s+8)} = 0[/tex]

Then, the step I'm not sure about:

[tex](s^2+6s+20)(s+8) + 30k = 0[/tex]

How do I get to that step? For some reason I can't see the simple algebra that is used.
Is this what you meant to write?

It looks like they just multiplied both sides by [tex](s^2+6s+20)(s+8)[/tex]
 
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Doing a little controls theory are we? :biggrin: Yep, just mutliply both sides by that.
 
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Yup, control theory. I don't know why I couldn't see that step, I think it's time to take a break. :rofl:

Thanks guys.
 

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A characteristic equation is a mathematical equation that describes the properties and behavior of a particular system or process. It is commonly used in physics, engineering, and other scientific fields to model and analyze systems.

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