Moles question

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(Q.) 3 g of activated charcoal was added to 50 mL of acetic acid solution (0.06N) in a flask. After an hour it was filtered and the strength of the filtrate was found to be 0.042 N. The amount of acetic acid adsorbed (per gram of charcoal) is :


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I thought of finding the volume first by using the formulae :N1V1=N2V2 and then get the volume but I realized that finding volume won't help so I am out of ideas
 

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The volume doesn't change.

How many moles of the acetic acid before adding the charcoal, how many moles after adsorption?
 
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the n factor for acetic acid is 1 so it's molarity will be same (o.o6M). and from the formulae ,we can calulate the moles but I don't know how to calculate moles after adsorption
 
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You have 50 mL of a 0.042 M solution, how do you calculate number of moles in such case?

What is the definition of the molar concentration?
 
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You have 50 mL of a 0.042 M solution, how do you calculate number of moles in such case?
Molarity X Volume=0.042 X 0.05
 
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The volume doesn't change.

Doesn't volume increase with addition of solutes
 
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Doesn't volume increase with addition of solutes

In general you are right, it does. But in most cases change can be neglected.

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In general you are right, it does. But in most cases change can be neglected.

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So I want to post the steps I have understood

Step 1 Before Adsorption

No of moles of acetic acid in the solution=50X0.6=3milli moles(n factor of acetic acid is 1 so Normality=Molarity)

Step 2
No of mole of acetic acid after adsorption=50(volume is not changing which I don't understand)X0.042=2.1 millimoles

Step 3
Moles adsorbed= O.9millimoles

Step 4

Weight of acetic acid=0.9X60/1000=54mg
My textbook gives the answer as 18mg...what did I do wrong now and can you tell me more about when to keep volume constant
 
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Weight of acetic acid=0.9X60/1000=54mg

That's correct.

My textbook gives the answer as 18mg

Looks OK.

what did I do wrong

Reread the question, you have missed something.

when to keep volume constant

Almost always, only when the concentration changes are huge it really matters.

0.06 M acetic acid contains 3.6 g of acetic acid per liter.
0.042 M acetic acid contains 2.5 g of acetic acid per liter.
The difference is 1.1 g. Imagine removing the acid from the solution - you are removing 1 g from 1000 g, so you can expect volume change in the 0.1% range at best. Negligible.
 
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I get it now.
I forgot to divide it by the mass of charcoal so it makes sense now.
Thanks
 

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