Why is Momentum Not Conserved in a Ball of Clay Colliding with a Wall?

In summary, a ball of clay is thrown against a wall and sticks there. In this process, momentum is not conserved because the clay stops moving.
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Homework Statement


A ball of clay is thrown against a wall and sticks there. In this process, momentum is not conserved because the clay stops moving.



The Attempt at a Solution



Im thinking it's not because there is no velocity anymore for the clay? Is this right?
 
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momentum is not conserved because the reaction force is absorbed by clay ball to change ts shape .
 
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I think, Law of conservation of momentum is only applied when
1. There is no external force acting on the bodies
2. The bodies in the system are rigid

The clay ball is not rigid and stick to wall. Here total energy of the system is conserved but the total momentum is not.
 
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correct. momentum is not conserved. in this case, since the wall is hinged to the ground/celling, a reaction force from this places is acting against the force that tries to move the wall.
 
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paragchitnis said:
I think, Law of conservation of momentum is only applied when
1. There is no external force acting on the bodies
2. The bodies in the system are rigid

The clay ball is not rigid and stick to wall. Here total energy of the system is conserved but the total momentum is not.

The Earth was pushed backwards (tangentially by a very small amount) when the the clay ball was projected from something presumably anchored to it, and the Earth was pushed forward (also by a very small amount) when it hit assuming the wall was anchored.
 
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Here we are considering a system of two bodies i.e. a wall and the clay ball. If we consider the motion of the earth, the system will be changed. Momentum will be conserved only if there is no external force acting on the system. The force may be small or large, tangentially or normally, if it is acting on the system the momentum will not conserved.
In the proof of the Law of conservation of momentum we take (For the system of two bodies)
Action force = -(Reaction force)
If any third external force acts on the system, the magnitude and the direction of the action as well as reaction force changes (Depending on the magnitude and direction of external force)
The change in force tends to change in velocity and momentum of the bodies. This force does not change the initial momentum of the system but changes final momentum. Thus the momentum is not conserved.
 
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paragchitnis said:
Here we are considering a system of two bodies i.e. a wall and the clay ball. If we consider the motion of the earth, the system will be changed. Momentum will be conserved only if there is no external force acting on the system. The force may be small or large, tangentially or normally, if it is acting on the system the momentum will not conserved.
In the proof of the Law of conservation of momentum we take (For the system of two bodies)
Action force = -(Reaction force)
If any third external force acts on the system, the magnitude and the direction of the action as well as reaction force changes (Depending on the magnitude and direction of external force)
The change in force tends to change in velocity and momentum of the bodies. This force does not change the initial momentum of the system but changes final momentum. Thus the momentum is not conserved.

So your ball and wall are in outer space. Then you can't anchor the wall. The clump of clay and the wall will move after collission.

Or are you postulating that these are the only two things in your universe? Then momentum is not conserved; but the universe doesn't exist, so who cares?
 

1. What is momentum conservation?

Momentum conservation is a fundamental principle in physics that states that the total momentum of a closed system remains constant over time. This means that in the absence of external forces, the total momentum before an event must equal the total momentum after the event.

2. How is momentum conserved?

Momentum is conserved according to Newton's third law of motion, which states that for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. This means that when two objects interact, they exert equal and opposite forces on each other, resulting in a change in momentum that is equal and opposite for each object.

3. What is an example of momentum conservation?

A common example of momentum conservation is a collision between two objects. When two objects collide, their momentums change, but the total momentum before the collision must be equal to the total momentum after the collision, as long as no external forces are acting on the system.

4. Why is momentum conservation important?

Momentum conservation is important because it is a fundamental law of nature that helps us understand and predict the motion of objects. It also plays a crucial role in fields such as mechanics, astrophysics, and particle physics.

5. Can momentum be lost or gained?

In a closed system, momentum cannot be lost or gained, it can only be transferred between objects. This is because the total momentum of the system must remain constant. However, in an open system where external forces are present, momentum can be lost or gained as a result of these external forces.

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