Monitor/Mentor Selection

  1. Les Sleeth

    Les Sleeth 2,202
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    Anybody wonder about the criteria for choosing monitors/mentors at PF?

    Will a precocious, opinionated, or dominating student make a good monitor? Should monitors be chosen because they agree with the majority view of the other monitors at PF? Should friendship to other monitors be considered relevant?

    I will tell you what I think the criteria should be. A forum monitor should be an expert in the field they are watching over, they should be liberal-minded, they should be unbiased enough to allow discussion to proceed without censure when it runs contrary to their beliefs. Yet they should be strong and objective enough to be able to keep debates on track.

    How about a little wisdom and life experience thrown in?

    But then, it isn't my site. Something I am certain of is that a forum attracts the same quality of minds the philosophy, experience, wisdom, and intelligence its leaders establish.
     
    Last edited: Sep 22, 2003
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  3. Greg Bernhardt

    Staff: Admin

    I absolutely agree LW. Are you saying our current staff does not meet your expectations? I am a member at many science forums and I can undoubtably say we have the best staff and it makes the difference. Without them PF would not be what it is today.

    btw, what is a PF monitor?
     
  4. Les Sleeth

    Les Sleeth 2,202
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    Re: Re: Monitor/Mentor Selection

    Well, it doesn't seem like you totally agree does it?

    I offered the option of "monitor" as a way to excuse some of the "mentors" who hardly exemplify either expertise in the field they are supposed to be guiding others in or how to conduct a focused and unbiased debate (afterall, a mentor is supposed to "mentor").

    I have interacted with a number of the mentors here, so I am not without experience when I claim there are mentors who need lessons in objectivity, and a broader education. Instead what I have run into too often are people using the power of their post to guide things toward what they can agree with.

    I have loved this site Greg, and even been passionate about preserving it. But I find myself fading away when I see people chosen as mentors who in the past have consistantly demonstrated the only thing they are interested in is furthering their personal beliefs.
     
  5. russ_watters

    Staff: Mentor

    I'll have to admit I am uncomfortable with the title "mentor" and I'll generally refer to myself as a "moderator" which is the typical term used for such a post. And though I consider myself a pretty good engineer, I (like any good scientist/engineer) have a lot to learn.
     
  6. Les Sleeth

    Les Sleeth 2,202
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    I suspected it was unwise for me to tackle this subject because the first people to take responsibility are usually those doing a fine job. My complaint isn't about mentors who can help others understand.
     
  7. Tsu

    Tsu 638
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    An excellent description, LW. IMHO, most mentors fit the bill quite well. I also believe that objectivity is a must. Consciously promoting ill-will is an area that mentors should avoid so that the thread runs smoothly and intelligently, and members should not be made to feel that their opinions are wrong. There is no right or wrong to an opinion. 'Baiting' and personal slurs should be avoided at all costs. When proven wrong in an 'attack' on a member, apologies should be immediately forthcoming, without stipulation and genuine in nature.
     
  8. Les Sleeth

    Les Sleeth 2,202
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    Re: Re: Monitor/Mentor Selection

    I agree that "most mentors fit the bill."
     
  9. Greg Bernhardt

    Staff: Admin

    Re: Re: Re: Monitor/Mentor Selection

    How about you stop beating around the bush and give the nature and direction of the change your looking for.
     
  10. They all mean me... On the other hand, I think I do a kick-butt job, all things considered.
     
  11. Tsu

    Tsu 638
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    What makes you think that?
     
  12. Because they always mean me!!
     
  13. Tsu

    Tsu 638
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    Ah. Why is that?
     
  14. Because I'm a big meanie!!
     
  15. Tsu

    Tsu 638
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    Well...yes. But, Zero, you are sort of a LIKEABLE big meanie.:wink: Now if you could just clean all that blood off of your face...

    edit: 'Big meanie'... hmmmm. Actually a few other adjectives might have better suited you... Can you come up with something better?
     
    Last edited: Sep 23, 2003
  16. Tsu

    Tsu 638
    Gold Member

    Nah...let's go back to 'big meanie'. What do you mean when you say 'big'meanie'?
     
  17. drag

    drag 1,341
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    How could we ?! :wink:
    Actually, wouldn't it be fun if you were the Religion forum
    mentor ? Think about it...:wink: I'd rate you as No. 1 there for
    sure (that place really needs some air and sunlight) !


    Peace and long life.
     
  18. Les Sleeth

    Les Sleeth 2,202
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    I was referring more to the new mentors being added, not you Zero. You've been thrashed about enough this year I think. :wink:
     
  19. Phobos

    Phobos 2,020
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    Re: Re: Re: Monitor/Mentor Selection

    And just think...you're getting all that for free!
     
  20. Tom Mattson

    Tom Mattson 5,539
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    Well, now I am really confused because I was sure you were talking about Zero too!

    Seriously, the new Mentors are qualified in the fields over which they are presiding.

    Enigma (Engineering Mentor): Graduating with BS in Aeronautical Engineering.
    Russ_Waters (Engineering Mentor): Practicing Engineer
    Another God (Philosophy/Other Sciences Mentor): Graduating with degrees in Molecular Biology and Philosophy
    Hurkyl (Mathematics Mentor): Professional Mathematician

    Those are all excellent choices, IMO.
     
  21. Well, then...I'm in the perfect position to say leave the new guys alone, aren't I?

    And, like Phobos suggested, you get the best mentors no money can buy.
     
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