Movies for hardcore sci-fi geeks

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The Lathe of Heaven [1980]
Bad directing [esp], bad acting, but an interesting and unusual plot. A man's dreams become reality and he changes the world; many times. The plot makes it worth the watch.

It is available for free viewing at GoogleVids
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6032236535078716306&ei=hPhES9ePFI70qAOfoKjkDg&q=the+lathe+of+heaven&hl=en# [Broken]
 
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Has Primer been mentioned yet? I've just watched it and am very impressed. What a neat concept, and well done! I really enjoy the raw feel it has; no special effects were necessary and, in my opinion, would have been detrimental to the believability of the film.

I'll need to watch it at least one more time, though.
 
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Twilight Zone fans will remember the episode titled "It's a good life"

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/87/It%27s_A_Good_Life.JPG [Broken]

with the evil Billy Mumy, which is considered by many to be one of the best Zone episodes made. I don't think I ever mentioned that the author of that episode was Jerome Bixby, who also wrote The Man from Earth.

Bixby also wrote three Star Trek [TOS] episodes: 1967's "Mirror, Mirror", which introduced the series' concept of the "Mirror Universe"; 1969's "Requiem for Methuselah", about "Flint", a 6,000-year-old man; 1968's "Day of the Dove", about an entity that feeds on hate and traps the crew in a cycle of endless warfare.

The screenplay for [The Man from Earth] was conceived by Jerome Bixby in the early 1960s and was completed on his death bed in April 1998, making it his final piece of work. [I have read that his son finally had to help finish the screenplay]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_from_Earth

Another bit of trivia that surprised me was that a number of Twlight Zone episodes were written by the real John-Boy Walton - Earl Hamner. Several of the episodes were about mountain folk. :biggrin:: Jess-Belle; The hunt; The Bewitchin' Pool. All of the episodes written by Hamner are excellent, imo... eh, less "Black Leather Jackets", which was okay for its time but not great.

"The Hunt" (1962)
"A Piano in the House" (1962)
"Jess-Belle" (1963)
"Ring-a-Ding Girl" (1963)
"You Drive" (1964)
"Black Leather Jackets" (1964)
"Stopover in a Quiet Town" (1964)
"The Bewitchin' Pool" (1964)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Hamner,_Jr [Broken].

A lesser known Twilight Zone episode that I would highly recommend is "I am the Night, Colour Me Black" In my opinion, the best of the series. Available on youtube.
 
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Has Primer been mentioned yet? I've just watched it and am very impressed. What a neat concept, and well done! I really enjoy the raw feel it has; no special effects were necessary and, in my opinion, would have been detrimental to the believability of the film.

I'll need to watch it at least one more time, though.

I mentioned that in the op - in fact it was the motivation for this thread - and you will find a number of Primer fans chiming in, in the pages that follow. After three viewings, I am still unsure about the guy found in the driveway. :grumpy:

Imo, "The Man from Earth" also deserves special note. If you go back and review this thread, you will likely find many quality sci-fi movies mentioned that you will enjoy... if you haven't seen them already. Given your [obvious] refined palate for sci-fi :biggrin:, please add any notables from your own viewing.
 
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A few favorites that I've mentioned before are:

Metropolis [the rerelease by Giorgio Moroder]
Solaris
Brazil
The Man from Earth

I just caught one that I'd never heard of before, called Primer. It drags at times but the plot is excellent.

I just finished watching this!!! 10/10
Can anyone recommend any other movies that are like this? I'm not big on alien/spaceship type of sci-fi movies (except for Stargate).

EDIT: nvm, I'll just browse through the other pages and read up on the reviews on amazon
 
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The Lathe of Heaven [1980]
Bad directing [esp], bad acting, but an interesting and unusual plot. A man's dreams become reality and he changes the world; many times. The plot makes it worth the watch.

It is available for free viewing at GoogleVids
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6032236535078716306&ei=hPhES9ePFI70qAOfoKjkDg&q=the+lathe+of+heaven&hl=en# [Broken]
Somehow I made it through the first 5 minutes, and then I couldn't stop watching. What a horrible, wonderful film :tongue:
 
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A lesser known Twilight Zone episode that I would highly recommend is "I am the Night, Colour Me Black" In my opinion, the best of the series. Available on youtube.

Yes, that is a great episode.

I was trying to remember the name of another one of my favorites. I have't seen it for a long time so the details are sketchy, but it was about a child who dreams of snow. It was done as a narrative.
 
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I just finished watching this!!! 10/10
Can anyone recommend any other movies that are like this? I'm not big on alien/spaceship type of sci-fi movies (except for Stargate).

EDIT: nvm, I'll just browse through the other pages and read up on the reviews on amazon

You might take a look at Final Approach [1991]. It isn't as good as The Man from Earth but it has much the same flavor. My wife and I both enjoyed it.

I don't see it listed at a free site... Netflix has it available for streaming.
 
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Somehow I made it through the first 5 minutes, and then I couldn't stop watching. What a horrible, wonderful film :tongue:

Isn't it though?!?! :biggrin:

I was curious so I went back and checked the credits. It was produced by New Yorks PBS and apparently had no director, which would explain why the directing was so bad! It only lists a director of photography. It almost appears to be an actor's workshop type of setting, or an experimental production.

From wiki

When it first aired in 1980, The Lathe of Heaven became one of the two highest-rated shows that season on PBS, drawing 10 percent of the audience in New York and 8 percent in Chicago, according to Nielsen ratings.[10]

The Lathe of Heaven was nominated for a Hugo Award for Best Dramatic Presentation. The screenplay was nominated for a Writers Guild Award for writers Roger Swaybill [11] and Diane English[12]

In 1998, Entertainment Weekly magazine named Lathe one of the top 100 greatest works of science fiction.[13]

Of the 2000 re-release (see below), TV Guide wrote, "Unlike much current science fiction, it's driven by ideas rather than special effects, and Davison's subtle performance as George, who turns out to be a far tougher character than he at first appears, is a highlight."[14] In Cinescape, a reviewer praised the film as

"an instant classic...a film of ideas rather than action...[W]hile the minuscule budget didn't grant the filmmakers the grandeur of some of Le Guin's set pieces in the novel, such as the alien invasion or the melting of Portland, the film's strength comes from its performers and the suspenseful concepts in the writing."[15] And Time magazine wrote:
Nineteen years before The Blair Witch Project, this classic sci-fi film showed that you can make an arresting fantasy with hardly more than the change under your couch cushions...ome of the no-budget effects haven't aged well--at one point the earth is visited by alien ships that look like electric hamburgers. The provocative exploration of consciousness, though, is priceless.[16]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lathe_of_Heaven_(film)
 
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Some of my favourite (recent-ish) Sci-Fi films for you guys...

Puzzlehead
Pi
The Fountain
Cube
Code46
Delecatessen
City of Lost Children



Already mentioned but deserve another shout...

Brazil
Dark City
Primer
Dune
12 Monkeys
Abyss


I love Sci-fi. I've studied it abit and even tried to write it. Didn't work though.
 
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I ran across this video collage taken from Metropolis, while searching "Freddie Mercury".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IYgX7bl4uc
 
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Not sure if it's been mentioned, but the Babylon 5 series still remains the best Sci-fi series/show i've ever seen on television, some 15 years after the fact. The overarching storyline made it fairly unique as far as series go, with nearly the entire story having been written prior to airing. None of this "writing by the seat of your pants" business that leads to poor quality in most series today.

Great series (especially Seasons 2-4)... anyone who hasn't seen it is missing out on some of the best writing ever seen in a TV series, Sci-fi or not.
 
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Yes, that is a great episode.

I was trying to remember the name of another one of my favorites. I have't seen it for a long time so the details are sketchy, but it was about a child who dreams of snow. It was done as a narrative.

Twilight Zone...

Okay, now this is starting to bug me. I just made my third attempt to find even a reference to this episode, but after checking every episode listed at wiki, I still don't see it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Twilight_Zone_episodes

I am almost positive this was a Twilight Zone episode and it was unique in the genre, even for Serling. My guess would be that the narrative was taken from a classic work of literature; perhaps a short story. It would be a shame if this was lost.

Does this sound even vaguely familiar to anyone?
 
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Silly me, it was a Night Gallery episode. Night Gallery was also created and produced by Serling.

Silent Snow, Secret Snow" (1934) is Conrad Aiken's best-known short story, often included in anthologies of classic American horror and fantasy short fiction. It appeared in The Collected Stories of Conrad Aiken in 1934, and since then has been widely anthologized...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silent_Snow,_Secret_Snow

Best [second of two episodes, but the first episode is interesting as well]
http://www.hulu.com/watch/58804/night-gallery-the-phantom-farmhousesilent-snow-secret-snow [Broken]

or

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Fq3Y_Tco3k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1e3voETtQ0
 
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I hear the star wars movies are pretty good sci-fact flicks!
 
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Isn't it though?!?! :biggrin:

I was curious so I went back and checked the credits. It was produced by New Yorks PBS and apparently had no director, which would explain why the directing was so bad! It only lists a director of photography. It almost appears to be an actor's workshop type of setting, or an experimental production.
Somehow I missed this post earlier. That's hilarious--I've never heard of a film with no director! Maybe someone ought to remake it the right way?

Then again...it just wouldn't be the same.
 
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I think Dark City needs a stronger mention. Get the Director Cut with the commentary by Roger Ebert.

Also Eternal Sunshine of a Spotless Mind should rank higher.

Time After Time

For Dune I liked the mini-series better than the movie version.
 
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Time After Time
I am of two-minds on this one.

It is a truly great example of a well-done time-travel story ,and will always have a place in my tin heart.

OTOH, I watched it again recently, and it was much more over-the-top and melodramatic than I ever remember.
 
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I think Dark City needs a stronger mention.

(I'll say it again cuz I'm proud of it...)

Truman's World, run by the Borg.
 
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Not sure if it's been mentioned, but the Babylon 5 series still remains the best Sci-fi series/show i've ever seen on television, some 15 years after the fact. The overarching storyline made it fairly unique as far as series go, with nearly the entire story having been written prior to airing. None of this "writing by the seat of your pants" business that leads to poor quality in most series today.

Great series (especially Seasons 2-4)... anyone who hasn't seen it is missing out on some of the best writing ever seen in a TV series, Sci-fi or not.

I rewatched it recently and really it was not as good as I remember. The overall story is certainly rather good but the actual writing and dialog are for the most part rather hackneyed.
 
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I recently found this link (related to IMDb's Hit List) which may be of interest-

'The Five Underrated Sci-Fi Movie Masterpieces'
http://techland.com/2010/01/09/underrated-sci-fi/

which also has suggestions in the comments section.

So no one has to go through five pages just for a list of five movies...

1. Primer
2. Dark City
3. Serenity
4. Gattaca
5. Silent Running


I loved Gattaca. I worked at a Blockbuster Video when it was released to video and I do not know how many people I heard tell others not to watch it because it was boring. I was pissed, of course many of those people probably would have found it boring unfortunately. :-/

I have not seen Silent Running. I will have to look that up.
 
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So no one has to go through five pages just for a list of five movies...

1. Primer
2. Dark City
3. Serenity
4. Gattaca
5. Silent Running


I loved Gattaca. I worked at a Blockbuster Video when it was released to video and I do not know how many people I heard tell others not to watch it because it was boring. I was pissed, of course many of those people probably would have found it boring unfortunately. :-/

I have not seen Silent Running. I will have to look that up.

I'm glad to see Serenity made it. I've met quite a few people who love Firefly/Serenity, despite neither being successful - it's unfortunate that both only became appreciated after their releases.
 
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Also Eternal Sunshine of a Spotless Mind should rank higher.

Great film, although perhaps not hard-core sci-fi. I find lot of people don't seem to realise they're watching a science fiction film, it has a wide appeal.
 

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