# Moving out, what do I need?

1. Apr 10, 2007

### JasonRox

I've been looking at apartments and there is a good chance that I may be moving out by May 1st.

The current expenses are what I don't know yet. I'm not sure if utilities are included or what not. I contacted them about it and they should get back to me hopefully by tomorrow.

Anyways, here is what I have in mind.

Laptop
Desk
TV
DVD Player
Bookshelves
File Cabinet
Clock
Heater
Air Filter
Lots of Tools
Comforter

What I know I need...

Dish Towels
Dry Towels
Bathroom Towels
Cutlery
Plates
Pan and Pot
Microwave
Cleaning Supplies
Pillow
Blanket
Mattress (Air or whatever is cheap.)

Is there anything else?

All the apartments I looked at have Stove and Fridge. I'll most like be living with no cable and internet and maybe even no phone.

Am I missing anything?

2. Apr 10, 2007

### scorpa

Is the apartment furnished? If not you may want to invest in a couch, or some decent chairs. Assuming the place isn't air conditioned I would recommend bringing a fan, the first place I moved into I never turned the heat on, could crack the window when it was 40 below outside and it would still be to hot in there, the fan was definitely something I was glad to have. Maybe a plunger for the bathroom. Depending on the place you may need to supply your own shower curtain, and definitely a bath mat if you want one. Maybe a toaster, blender or coffee maker if you think you would use it. I'm trying to run through the list of things I got when I moved out but I'm kind of drawing a blank. I'll think some more but everything looks good so far.

3. Apr 10, 2007

### Dr Transport

Go and get yourself a double size matress, commonly known as a double. You don't need a box spring or anything else.

I lived in a house for 2 months with:
bed
a couple of towels
fridge
stove
2 servings of silverwear
plates
pot
coffee pot
table
chair
frying pan
broom
dust pan
phone
clock

I eventually bought a lawn mower and gas can.

The neighbors thought I was weird until they saw me installing a swing set for my kids who were coming in a couple of weeks. They saw a guy leave in the am, come home at dinner time, occasionally leave to get some groceries, run a few days a week and go to church and the laundromat on Sunday am.

I call that period my "Gilligans Island" adventure.

Within 6 months you'll have more crap than you ever thought you'd ever need.

4. Apr 10, 2007

### JasonRox

Thanks for everything.

For the couch, I'm going to wait until later for that. One of the places is conditionned, and my heater is a fan as well. Not a good one though, so maybe I'll find a nice one at a garage sale.

I'll never use a toaster, blender or coffee maker so no worries there.

5. Apr 10, 2007

### JasonRox

I might not have enough money to buy a mattress. Or a place to put clothes. :surprised

I'll get quite a bit of stuff over time like you said, but I want to nail down the things I'll need right away.

I'll be taking trips to garage sales for sure.

6. Apr 10, 2007

### FredGarvin

The only other thing I would say to make sure that you have is your wits. Especially with money. I know it sounds corny, but it gets proven time and time again. When you get your first place you will "nickel and dime yourself" to death. By that I mean that you will unknowingly spend a ton of money getting those little things you take for granted. The big ticket items show up on your radar really well. However, those $2 and$5 here and there for stupid things like soap or toothpaste, etc... do add up very quickly. Just beware. You will be surprised how fast it racks up.

Good luck and enjoy the wonderful world of apartment living.

7. Apr 10, 2007

### scorpa

For the couch if you don't want to buy new look around at garage sales, bargain finder, ask family....ect that is how I got mine......brand new couch but the people were moving again and didn't want to take it with them so I got it for 50 bucks

Another thing that might come in handy for storage if you need it is those rubbermaid containers you can get at canadian tire or stores like that, i have some that i just throw stuff in and slide under my bed.

Extension cords come in handy every once in a while.

For the apartment I have now I also found it had no lighting, so I had to buy some floor lamps so I could see. I got a few at IKEA for 20 bucks each, they don't look to bad and are very bright.

8. Apr 10, 2007

### JasonRox

I currently buy my own groceries, toothpaste and what not. I'm totally aware of that.

I really hope it's not that bad. I'm looking forward to independence.

9. Apr 10, 2007

### FredGarvin

It's not horrible. Just be prepared for a bit of a surprise, that's all.

Independence is the best. Nothing beats it.

10. Apr 10, 2007

### DaveC426913

You need a roommate. I'll give you his number. May 1st works great.

11. Apr 10, 2007

### Cyrus

-phone
-cable
-internet

12. Apr 10, 2007

### Moonbear

Staff Emeritus
Does your desk also have a desk chair? If so, that will probably also suffice for a dining table until you can get one. Otherwise, a cheap card table and folding chair or two is good enough for a first apartment. I'd go for an actual mattress as well instead of an inflatable one (those just don't hold up well and while it's okay for a night or two, to use it as your regular bed will become uncomfortable quickly), or maybe you can find a futon at a garage sale to use as both bed and couch. Don't forget sheets for the bed and something for toting laundry (assuming you don't have a washer and dryer in your apartment, you'll need to use the laundromat).

A few cooking utensils and a baking pan would be helpful too (you have your pots and pans for the stove already on the list, but a 13" x 9" baking pan is also very versatile for anything you might need to cook in the oven).

Beyond that, you probably have more than most people move into their first place with. You'll figure out other stuff as you go along. Save some of the boxes you use for moving, because a sheet thrown over them will make them into a useful end table or coffee table in a pinch. You might also find you need a lamp or two for your desk if the rooms don't have good light in them.

I think the most shocking expense in a first apartment is that first grocery bill as you're stocking a pantry from scratch. Even with just a few basic spices, and condiments, it adds up quickly. If you can scavenge plastic containers for the freezer, that will help you out so you can store leftovers or buy some bulk items that you can divide up for smaller serving sizes. But, worse comes to worst, you just eat rather bland food for a while until you can gradually build up a stock of ingredients.

I went for years without cable, and you'll find there's not much to miss. Can you find places where you live that have free wireless for internet access? Order a cup of coffee and hang out for an hour or so there to do what you need to do online. I would recommend you do get a phone though, even if it's just the cheapest phone plan and cheapest phone you can get. If you have problems with something and need to call the landlord, or have an emergency, you'll need a phone. Oh, and don't forget your library card. If you're going to be without cable TV (how much reception do you get on just an antenna there?) and without internet access and really limiting how much time you spend on the phone (or without a phone at all), you're going to need something to keep yourself occupied when home by yourself, so it'll probably be lots of reading.

Good luck and enjoy your independence.

13. Apr 10, 2007

### Cyrus

That is a bad idea. Just sleep on the floor, its much better for your back than an air mattress.

14. Apr 10, 2007

### Danger

None of those are important. You can access internet through a local library or employment centre. It will cut into your PF time to do it that way, but them's the breaks. Alternatively, if you have Airport you can piggyback on somebody else's wifi.
In case Scorpa's prediction of your heating situation is mistaken, I would advise against using an air mattress. I tried it once; the damned thing sucks all the heat out of an electric blanket (or mattress pad in my case) before it can do you any good. It just expands instead of warming up.
A vacuum cleaner might be handy. Depending upon your wardrobe choices, you might also want an iron. (I've never used either myself, but I'm a slob. )

edit: I guess that I shouldn't watch TV and post at the same time. I just saw Moonie's contribution after I threw this one out. She does have a point about the phone, although a payphone in your immediate vicinity would suffice for outgoing calls.

Last edited: Apr 10, 2007
15. Apr 10, 2007

### JasonRox

Other things I have...

Lamps (3 of them)
Library Card (Library nearby with internet)

Cheap Phone Plan (most likely cellphone)
Baking Pan
Real Mattress
Cooking Utensils

Also, note that laundry is on site.

For food, like I said, I already buy groceries. I don't use any spices besides Chili Powder and Black Pepper. I don't even use sugar, salt, ketchup, mustard, mayo, butter, and lots of things. I have everything I need for food right now, so I'm alright for that. I just eat produce, chicken and pasta basically.

Thanks Moonbeak for all the great advice!

16. Apr 10, 2007

### JasonRox

Broom (cheaper than a vacuum)

I can live without an iron.

17. Apr 10, 2007

### Danger

While a broom is definitely cheaper, it won't work on carpet or upholstery. An electric broom is a reasonable compromise, and you can get a used one for about \$5.

18. Apr 10, 2007

### JasonRox

Great point!

Damn, I've cleaned a carpet before. It's probably a pain in the arse!

19. Apr 10, 2007

### Staff: Mentor

Remember, having to borrow stuff is a great excuse to talk to your neighbors. That's how I got to know the woman who became my wife a few years later.

20. Apr 10, 2007