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Mr. President: "Coffins ? ... Bring Them On!"?
It's no fun writing a post like this. But I need to make some remarks on the situation in Iraq, I am very concerned. This situation is what many - especially in Europe - feared.
Sure the Iraq situation is very complex and there is much more to say.
US (Bush) opened the Pandora's Box. We know the motives to go inside Iraq were false, unlawfull. Now we see that violence is up. This is only the beginning. Now both Sunni's AND Shia's (Shiits) are upset. All point to US. And Bremer says: "Protesters have crossed the line and moved to violence. We (USA) will not tolerate that."
I have the impression US-strategists believed Iraqis could be manipulated as easy as the US-Television society. But it's not. It's a completely different culture and related perception of reality and time. The actual violence is not on TV, it's on the streets and friends or relatives are victims. Shooting on crowds isn't the correct way and makes the problem felt personal.
The political power in Iraq may now be different and softer than under Saddam but now it is controlled by non-believers, alien Crusaders mentally linked to Israel. That's how normal Iraqi percept their situation. Just like Bush speaks every day with God, these people do. Both God's give although another message.
Iraq is not waiting for Bremer's ideas and hidden agenda, be sure that the majority believes that a solution must be conform basic Islamic ideas.
Bremer may name-calling today local religious leaders 'outlaws' (like Sadr) but the US-occupation itself was out of International Law and crossed many lines.
Bremer said: ""We have a difficult security situation. We have a group under Moqtada al-Sadr that has basically placed itself outside the legal authorities, the coalition and Iraqi officials," said Bremer, head of the U.S.-led Coalition Provisional Authority."
"Effectively he is attempting to establish his authority in the place of the legitimate authority. We will not tolerate this," he said.
What makes Bremer's authorities legal? The power of force? The Will of USA?
What makes the coalition legal? The power of force? The manipulations by USA?
What makes Bremer's Iraqi officials legal? The power of force? The parachuted friends of USA?
For sure I don't agree which the ideas and actions of al-Sadr but he has more legitimate rights than Bremer to think about the future of HIS country. If we like it or not.
Bremer has yet no other logic choice - and forced by the events - but reacting hard. That will give more attacks and violence of both sides.
Cynical questions: Will Bremer start to build around Falluja, Basra, Naja, ... Israel-type of 'fences' (an exciting new expensive project for Cheney's friends)? A fence around Al-Sadr's HQ like Israel did with Arafat? Will Bremer tell us this week that 40-50% of Iraq's are terrorists? What if Iraqis start to make giant human sit-in fences and block all roads for military? Tear-gas, ..., risk of man-to-man situations?
Will Bremer let rocket the outlaw Sadr, or will Sadr be eliminated in a more subtle way by a simple but fanatic suiciding Sunni?
I think US should try urgently to get UN into this increasing out-of-control situation. If the handing over of sovereignty on 30 June may not by appropriate, then power should go to UN (just like Spain asks now).
If US just reacts on the violence by counter-violence and doesn't offer a credible neutral solution via UN (thus involving other Islamic and Middle-East States too) I fear that every US and 'collision' soldier (and 'civilians', mostly mercenaries) will be the religious targets for 30 to 40% of the Iraq population. Vietnam was a cold political war with a single goal ... Iraq becomes an emotional religious war with many internally divided parties but with a single 'visual' enemy ... and that will mean much, more, much more body bags if US keeps following the road of the lonely World Texas Ranger. I am however pessimistic. Probably the hidden agenda forces US to keep full military and economic control for next five year. US don't want to share real power with countries like Germany, France, Russia, ...
So will this Mr. President new one-liner: "Coffins ? ... Bring Them On!"?.
It all depends of Mr. Bush himself ... and of course of his talks with God.
RealOne Radio spot of BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/audio/40003000/rm/_40003881_iraq_khazaali.ram
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U.S. Helicopters Attack Targets in Baghdad
BAGHDAD, Iraq (Reuters) - Fresh fighting between U.S. forces and Shi'ite militiamen erupted in a Baghdad neighborhood Monday, with two Apache helicopters firing on targets in the area, Reuters journalists at the scene said.
A U.S. vehicle was also in flames in the area, a predominantly Shi'ite neighborhood.
Sunday, fighting in another Shi'ite area of Baghdad, the impoverished Sadr City district, claimed the lives of at least 28 Iraqis and seven U.S. soldiers.
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=4748397§ion=news
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US poised to 'pacify' Iraqi town
US troops have sealed off the Sunni flashpoint town of Falluja where four Americans were killed and their bodies mutilated by a mob last week.
Unconfirmed reports say fighting has erupted in the town with a US warplane dropping bombs in response to a mortar attack on troops.
The US command has vowed to "pacify" Falluja, where four civilian contractors were killed on Wednesday.
Falluja lies in the heartland of resistance to the US-led occupation.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3599993.stm
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Shia protests spread to Basra
Iraqis loyal to a radical Shia Muslim cleric have occupied the governor's office in Basra in protest at coalition actions against their movement.
About 150 followers of Moqtada Sadr took over the building unopposed to stage what they called a sit-in.
Sunday saw clashes across Iraq between gunmen loyal to Mr Sadr and coalition forces, with dozens killed or injured.
'Civil war'
The US administrator in Iraq, Paul Bremer, said the protesters in Najaf had "crossed the line" and violence would not be tolerated.
Two senior US congressmen have warned President George W Bush's administration that Iraq faces the possibility of civil war.
The Republican and Democratic Party leaders of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Richard Lugar and Joe Biden, said the US should consider postponing the handing over of sovereignty on 30 June.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3599771.stm
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But we may not forget that the Iraq war was also to bring more security inside USA? So:
BOMB WARNING PUTS U.S. BUSES, TRAINS ON HIGH ALERT
(04-03-2004) - A warning that terrorists might strike trains and buses in major U.S. cities using bombs concealed in bags or luggage has the nation's transit systems ratcheting up security measures.
U.S. officials said they had received uncorroborated intelligence reports about a plot by terrorists to target commercial transportation systems but had no information about specific cities or dates.
http://www.kfmb.com/topstory23866.html
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It's no fun writing a post like this. But I need to make some remarks on the situation in Iraq, I am very concerned. This situation is what many - especially in Europe - feared.
Sure the Iraq situation is very complex and there is much more to say.
US (Bush) opened the Pandora's Box. We know the motives to go inside Iraq were false, unlawfull. Now we see that violence is up. This is only the beginning. Now both Sunni's AND Shia's (Shiits) are upset. All point to US. And Bremer says: "Protesters have crossed the line and moved to violence. We (USA) will not tolerate that."
I have the impression US-strategists believed Iraqis could be manipulated as easy as the US-Television society. But it's not. It's a completely different culture and related perception of reality and time. The actual violence is not on TV, it's on the streets and friends or relatives are victims. Shooting on crowds isn't the correct way and makes the problem felt personal.
The political power in Iraq may now be different and softer than under Saddam but now it is controlled by non-believers, alien Crusaders mentally linked to Israel. That's how normal Iraqi percept their situation. Just like Bush speaks every day with God, these people do. Both God's give although another message.
Iraq is not waiting for Bremer's ideas and hidden agenda, be sure that the majority believes that a solution must be conform basic Islamic ideas.
Bremer may name-calling today local religious leaders 'outlaws' (like Sadr) but the US-occupation itself was out of International Law and crossed many lines.
Bremer said: ""We have a difficult security situation. We have a group under Moqtada al-Sadr that has basically placed itself outside the legal authorities, the coalition and Iraqi officials," said Bremer, head of the U.S.-led Coalition Provisional Authority."
"Effectively he is attempting to establish his authority in the place of the legitimate authority. We will not tolerate this," he said.
What makes Bremer's authorities legal? The power of force? The Will of USA?
What makes the coalition legal? The power of force? The manipulations by USA?
What makes Bremer's Iraqi officials legal? The power of force? The parachuted friends of USA?
For sure I don't agree which the ideas and actions of al-Sadr but he has more legitimate rights than Bremer to think about the future of HIS country. If we like it or not.
Bremer has yet no other logic choice - and forced by the events - but reacting hard. That will give more attacks and violence of both sides.
Cynical questions: Will Bremer start to build around Falluja, Basra, Naja, ... Israel-type of 'fences' (an exciting new expensive project for Cheney's friends)? A fence around Al-Sadr's HQ like Israel did with Arafat? Will Bremer tell us this week that 40-50% of Iraq's are terrorists? What if Iraqis start to make giant human sit-in fences and block all roads for military? Tear-gas, ..., risk of man-to-man situations?
Will Bremer let rocket the outlaw Sadr, or will Sadr be eliminated in a more subtle way by a simple but fanatic suiciding Sunni?
I think US should try urgently to get UN into this increasing out-of-control situation. If the handing over of sovereignty on 30 June may not by appropriate, then power should go to UN (just like Spain asks now).
If US just reacts on the violence by counter-violence and doesn't offer a credible neutral solution via UN (thus involving other Islamic and Middle-East States too) I fear that every US and 'collision' soldier (and 'civilians', mostly mercenaries) will be the religious targets for 30 to 40% of the Iraq population. Vietnam was a cold political war with a single goal ... Iraq becomes an emotional religious war with many internally divided parties but with a single 'visual' enemy ... and that will mean much, more, much more body bags if US keeps following the road of the lonely World Texas Ranger. I am however pessimistic. Probably the hidden agenda forces US to keep full military and economic control for next five year. US don't want to share real power with countries like Germany, France, Russia, ...
So will this Mr. President new one-liner: "Coffins ? ... Bring Them On!"?.
It all depends of Mr. Bush himself ... and of course of his talks with God.
RealOne Radio spot of BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/audio/40003000/rm/_40003881_iraq_khazaali.ram
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U.S. Helicopters Attack Targets in Baghdad
BAGHDAD, Iraq (Reuters) - Fresh fighting between U.S. forces and Shi'ite militiamen erupted in a Baghdad neighborhood Monday, with two Apache helicopters firing on targets in the area, Reuters journalists at the scene said.
A U.S. vehicle was also in flames in the area, a predominantly Shi'ite neighborhood.
Sunday, fighting in another Shi'ite area of Baghdad, the impoverished Sadr City district, claimed the lives of at least 28 Iraqis and seven U.S. soldiers.
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=4748397§ion=news
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US poised to 'pacify' Iraqi town
US troops have sealed off the Sunni flashpoint town of Falluja where four Americans were killed and their bodies mutilated by a mob last week.
Unconfirmed reports say fighting has erupted in the town with a US warplane dropping bombs in response to a mortar attack on troops.
The US command has vowed to "pacify" Falluja, where four civilian contractors were killed on Wednesday.
Falluja lies in the heartland of resistance to the US-led occupation.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3599993.stm
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Shia protests spread to Basra
Iraqis loyal to a radical Shia Muslim cleric have occupied the governor's office in Basra in protest at coalition actions against their movement.
About 150 followers of Moqtada Sadr took over the building unopposed to stage what they called a sit-in.
Sunday saw clashes across Iraq between gunmen loyal to Mr Sadr and coalition forces, with dozens killed or injured.
'Civil war'
The US administrator in Iraq, Paul Bremer, said the protesters in Najaf had "crossed the line" and violence would not be tolerated.
Two senior US congressmen have warned President George W Bush's administration that Iraq faces the possibility of civil war.
The Republican and Democratic Party leaders of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Richard Lugar and Joe Biden, said the US should consider postponing the handing over of sovereignty on 30 June.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3599771.stm
------
But we may not forget that the Iraq war was also to bring more security inside USA? So:
BOMB WARNING PUTS U.S. BUSES, TRAINS ON HIGH ALERT
(04-03-2004) - A warning that terrorists might strike trains and buses in major U.S. cities using bombs concealed in bags or luggage has the nation's transit systems ratcheting up security measures.
U.S. officials said they had received uncorroborated intelligence reports about a plot by terrorists to target commercial transportation systems but had no information about specific cities or dates.
http://www.kfmb.com/topstory23866.html
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