This may be more appropriate for the metaphysics forum, but since this is my first post, I'll give this area a shot.(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});

What is the relationship between music, mathematics and descriptive language?

By descriptive language, I mean any language that describes the world as it really is. Clearly we have different cultural languages, but they all represent the same truths about the world. For example, to say "Romeo loves Juliet" (rlj) is to express, in English, that there is a thing that is a Romeo, and that thing bears the loving relation to another thing, which is called Juliet. This same truth (rlj) can be expressed in any number of languages.

It also seems to be the case that "rlj" can be expressed in mathematics (or some similar offshoot), such as in the function:

L(r, j) = true

(Aside: I do not know how to express the above function in more "numerical" form, perhaps somebody can help. Perhaps it is more of a 3-dimensional equation, such that the entire function is "true" at all the points in a 3-d grid where L, r, and j are all equal)

Now then, is it possible to express a similar truth about the world using music? Certainly we can create a piece of music that expresses the story of Romeo loving Juliet, however that is only one sense (sinn) of the meaning and not the actual meaning (bedeutung) itself.

Is it possible to compose music, such that the composition itself - the arrangement of tones - is a truth-bearing predicate? Note that I am not talking about the notation A,B,C#, etc, but more of the idea of the actual frequencies themselves. Could an arrangement of tones bear truth or falsity?

**Physics Forums | Science Articles, Homework Help, Discussion**

Join Physics Forums Today!

The friendliest, high quality science and math community on the planet! Everyone who loves science is here!

The friendliest, high quality science and math community on the planet! Everyone who loves science is here!

# Music, mathematics and language

**Physics Forums | Science Articles, Homework Help, Discussion**