Sorry, I don't think I can change the world, I am one of the people who toils to survive.dgoodpasture2005 said:What about those who will currently be in the condition and situation that you were once in? What about life and survival? Caring? Giving? Will you take for granted the breath that you breathe, while others die of starvation when you can knowingly save them and make the world a better place? Or will the thoughts ever cross your mind? Money is both necessary and evil, yet it doesn't have to be that way.
I don't think the world can change me, I just "react" to the world in the way I prefer to. How do I react depends on situations and my own opinions about what is the best decision that benefits me the most.dgoodpasture2005 said:So, you think the world can change you, but you can't change the world? It's the people in this world that make you what you are, and it's the way this world works that puts you in the position that you are in. Why is it that others can effect you... but you feel as if you don't have this same power as well?
You sound as a communist!dgoodpasture2005 said:The world is our house. Are you saying it is on fire? Then be the water that puts it out. You can go buy some seeds for a couple dollars and plant your own garden. You never have to buy any food. You don't really need electronics nor fancy clothes. Money is hardly needed unless you submit to the slavery of this cruel world. The only money that is needed is for those who have fallen so far behind. Example; Africa. Can you imagine what the world would be like if we didn't have money and we all took care of ourselves in a community that consisted of everything you need to stay alive? We are completely capable of this.
The meaning is determined by your appreciation of the value it has for obtaining with it what you need. If nobody else has respect for the value of your money it will not afford you a morsal of what you need. Money is not the value, it only represents value. Just try surviving on a diet of $100 bills, or bars of gold for that matter. The meaning of a dollar is not defined on a printing press but by the thought and effort of those which produce the value it represents.Sprinter said:If I am starving now, I need 10 dollar to buy food, the meaning of 10 dollar is intrinsically important, it is regardless of my mindset about money.
Friendship is important too, if you have $$$, surely it is easy to get friends!Most of us, however, require working and friendly relationships with others, regular interactions extended over a period of time, with at least a few intimate relationships strewn here and there. So don't ignore that
Where do you suppose the idea that these things will improve oneself comes from? Surely from your thoughts. Your thoughts are a product of your memories, which are to a very large extent not under your control. I can't help but remmember that catchy tune, or that movie I saw last week.loseyourname said:Why is everybody focusing on money? The poor guy just said he wants material well-being. I doubt he's going to lay around in a pile of cash. He's going to spend the money he earns to buy goods and services that do have real value to him; things like a comfortable house, a nice car, regular vacations, good health coverage, food that both nourishes and tastes good, a top education for his kids. What exactly is the problem with this?
Who said anything about improving oneself? He and I just want to be happy. I can't speak for him, but I'd also like to have a happy family.Lewis said:Where do you suppose the idea that these things will improve oneself comes from?
Good. Then that is what you see yourself needing to do with your life. Go do it, and let the rest of us live our lives. I have no problem with anything you do, so long as you aren't harming anybody, and I guess that's the only difference between you and I. You want people to feel guilty and devote their lives to others. I want people to do whatever it is that does it for them. It isn't the same for you and me, and it isn't the same for the starter of this thread.Perhaps you don't want to do anything new, you would rather live the life laid out by society--that is one of material possesion. However, I see a need in the world for a change.
Damn right it's not a question about changin society, at least not my society. No one in my town is rich, but there is no homelessness or starvation, either, and I don't particularly feel that by going to school and eventually providing for a family, I'm contributing to anybody else's, either. Depriving myself of material well-being isn't going to do any of these starving one damn bit of good. In fact, given the way in which our particular American society has an economy that relies heavily on consumption, it's entirely possible that I might indirectly hurt people by doing so. Frankly, I'm not going to plan for every possible outcome at seven degrees of separation from every one of my actions.A VERY large portion of the world is starving, dying of preventible diseases and live without access to what they need to survive. Another significant portion live in fear and misery--they want more and are afraid of not getting it. How can we justify living the opulent lives we live while this is the reality we live in? This is not a question about changing society, you have to change yourself first.
If you're a psychologist, perhaps. But that certainly wasn't a question raised by the thread. In fact, the gentleman didn't even ask how he should be happy. He said he already knew what would make him happy and simply told us what it is. Not surprisingly, the judgemental masses here at PF come in and tell him his planned life isn't good enough. No, he needs to live the way you want him to live.I think the major question here is not what makes you happy, but why it does so.
Yes, we need each other, we are interdependent.dgoodpasture2005 said:we'd all have to realize that we need each other more than we need these materials, and in doing so we'd also realize that we could get along a lot better in this way. T
Any large scale war that has threatened or had a major impact on mankind that you could ever name can be tracked back to a cause of money or material goods. We ARE capable of setting up small communities throughout the world that are self servant to the needs of the people which reside inside them.
, it's about compeition. Every single aspect of life is now about competition and it's going to boil over soon.
My dream is to live in a world whose residents respect one another, not for the name of their countries, their wealth, or the size of their military... but for the individuals that reside inside this Earth, which should be viewed as one, and not 120+ different individual nations all competing against each other. So my equation would go.Sprinter said:I beleive, MONEY can buy FREEDOM.
It is GREED for money that causes problems to us, not money itself.
You know, Money can REALISE your Dreams, for example, the Millionaire adventurer Steve Fossett who took on his attempt to become the first person to complete a solo trip around the world in an airplane without making a single stop; why he is able to do so? Because he has money! I may have the same dream, but I am not able to realize it because I have not enough money.
MONEY --------> DREAM + FREEDOM