# My University is closed monday, they're supporting the strike.

1. Oct 16, 2005

### Smurf

http://weblogs.elearning.ubc.ca/workplace/archives/2005_10.php

Background information:
-Teachers union in BC is striking because they want more money.
-It was declared an illegal strike by the courts
-They decided to do it anyway.
-My University decided to support them.

How much does this suck?
Stupid unions.

2. Oct 16, 2005

### jimmie

While the learning process is most effective when the student subjects their "self" to the teacher, so as to be taught, efficiently, do you believe it is possible, Smurf, that a strike would not affect the learning process of a "pro-active" student because such a student would continue assimilating knowledge of a particular subject with the same, readily available sources of information of the particular subject the said student sought to learn?

3. Oct 16, 2005

### Smurf

That's the point, my sources of information have just been curbed.
Unless all my professors cross the picket line (ha!)

4. Oct 16, 2005

### jimmie

Oh.

5. Oct 17, 2005

### Math Is Hard

Staff Emeritus
That does suck. We have to deal with frequent strikes here at the Uni where I work. I am not at all supportive of them. So when you said the university was supporting the strike, did they actually lock up the bldg. to keep people from entering? Did anyone try to cross the picket line?

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6. Oct 17, 2005

### Smasherman

When I changed from wanting to get good grades and thus became wealthy later in life to wanting to learn to better myself, I began wanting to go to school to learn. Though innately I can't say that a university strike is good or not, it seems counter-productive to close off the means of learning, and thus improvement, even if wages are unacceptable.

However, there is much free information available, so the closing of a university should not be crippling, only inconvenient.

7. Oct 17, 2005

### Dooga Blackrazor

While I do think unions are annoying, I believe it is better for the workers. There might be a better solution for everyone, but I haven't researched the matter.

I emphasize with your situation; however, I support the BC teachers on going against the government law. It brings attention to the fact that we need a worker protection method more efficient than unions - something that lets them keep working -, and it highlights the fact that education needs to be taken seriously.

8. Oct 17, 2005

it doesn't suck; teachers in BC get treated like ****. when my old rowing coach was young each dept in his high school (in st catharines) had its own markers & secretaries. teachers only had to do their prep. in bc teachers have to do all their own marking, prep, paperwork/admin stuff, etc etc, & all on their own time, sometimes to 10pm or later. i know because my dad's a teacher. (my mom works for telus too incidentally... it won't be long before they start coming to me for $i think) the teachers also don't like the heavihandedness of the government, legislating a "contract" on them (bill 12 passed a couple weeks ago) Last edited: Oct 17, 2005 9. Oct 17, 2005 ### Smurf Fourier... The average BC teacher earns$60,581. The minimum wage for a teacher with a BA in Education is \$35,000. Over the past 15 years the ratio of educators to students has increased by about... oohh... 1.1 students.

And don't give me that crap about a shortage of teachers. That's the unions fault in the first place for imposing those ridiculous requirements to join the union.

Source, source, source, source, source, source

btw, I was wrong it wasn't the teachers who walked out, it was a CUPI walk out. So the gym was closed (didn't get to go to yoga) and the bookstore (my new econ textbook was supposed to be in today) and some other facilities that I (mostly) don't care about.

I did get to go to class and I did get to use the library.

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10. Oct 17, 2005

### Pengwuino

Demand your money back smurf :P
Or well... you probably wouldn't get more back then it costs to drive up and get the refund :P

11. Oct 17, 2005

### Smurf

I thought about doing that. If I actually do end up missing more than one or two classes I will be really pissed because that's MY ass that has to do the make up work and doesn't get those lessons to help me understand the material. There's this one guy in Vancouver who's trying to do a class action lawsuit against the BCTF. We'll see what happens.

12. Oct 17, 2005

### Smurf

I thought about doing that. If I actually do end up missing more than one or two classes I will be really pissed because that's MY ass that has to do the make up work and doesn't get those lessons to help me understand the material. There's this one guy in Vancouver who's trying to do a class action lawsuit against the BCTF. We'll see what happens.

13. Oct 17, 2005

### dduardo

Staff Emeritus
Look on the bright side: No School = More time on PF

14. Oct 17, 2005

### Smurf

Unfortunately no.

No School = More time looking for a job.

15. Oct 17, 2005

### loseyourname

Staff Emeritus
Have any of the non-skilled labor at your school walked out as well? You could always try being a scab.

16. Oct 18, 2005

### Smurf

It's pretty much only the non-skilled labour that's walking out. Well, at least not very-skilled labour. It's like Cashiers and such.*

I wouldn't mind being a scab. I'm unsure what the other affects of that would be, there's a lot of people getting upset about this. I don't want to make myself anymore of a target, I'm disliked enough as it is.

That's gotta be the worst part about BC, it's very pro-union. If I become a scab at my uni it might hamper my ability to get a real (permanent) job later.

*There's the possibility more of the staff might join them later.

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17. Oct 20, 2005

### Aneleh

My school isn't going to be closed on friday. But the TA's are not supposed to work. The good news is because of the rumored bus driver strike (good news for me at least :tongue: ) one of my midterms is rescheduled to next week!

18. Oct 21, 2005

### neurocomp2003

lol when it happened to mac like 3-4 years ago...one of my cool teachers was like yea if you wanted to learn we'll just go to a timmies and i'll teach you guys there.

19. Oct 21, 2005

### neurocomp2003

lol when it happened to mac like 3-4 years ago...one of my cool teachers was like yea if you wanted to learn we'll just go to a timmies and i'll teach you guys there. But the strike was resolved early.

20. Oct 21, 2005

### Entropy

How can you say that's bad?! NO SCHOOL!!!