Mythbusters attack San Francisco

  1. Ivan Seeking

    Ivan Seeking 12,521
    Staff Emeritus
    Science Advisor
    Gold Member

    No one was hurt. Did they get lucky!!!
     
  2. jcsd
  3. That show drives me up the wall. Often the questions they supposedly answer have already been answered and a little better research is all they need. They talk about the scientific method, but don't seem to have much appreciation for peer review and thorough research.
     
  4. They should ban these stupid shows :devil:.
     
  5. jhae2.718

    jhae2.718 1,160
    Gold Member

    Mythbuster Problem Solving Algorithm:
    1. Find a question.
    2. Test it.
    3. Is it "confirmed", "busted", whatever?
    4. Who cares?
    5. USE (MORE) EXPLOSIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  6. When did this happen?
     
  7. S_Happens

    S_Happens 302
    Gold Member

    Scanning articles, it says it happened Dec. 6th.

    I'm still entertained by quite a bit of what they do.
     
  8. Me too. I like the fact there's someone out there building boats and canons out of duck tape.
     
  9. Ivan Seeking

    Ivan Seeking 12,521
    Staff Emeritus
    Science Advisor
    Gold Member

    I see these guys the same way I saw Steve Irwin. What they do is cool, but sooner or later something is bound to happen. Given the path of the ball, they were incredibly fortunate that no one got killed.

    After seeing a cement truck disappear into thin air in a giant explosion, it was clear that these guys could be really dangerous.
     
  10. DaveC426913

    DaveC426913 16,081
    Gold Member

    Nothing can be all things to all people, covering an entire philosophy. Mythbusters is not intended to.

    Mythbusters is not about The Scientific Method per se; it is about experimentation.

    That is not a shortcoming of the show; that is a strength.
     
  11. DaveC426913

    DaveC426913 16,081
    Gold Member

    What impact (:smile:) do you think this will have on the show? Will they curtail their activities? I see Adam and Jamie were not present. Will the juniors catch heck?
     
  12. They are movie FX guys. Every once in a great while someone does get hurt while a movie stunt is being filmed. This is actually the first time I'm aware of that something got out of hand for the Mythbusters, and, they were extremely lucky no one got hurt.

    Steve Irwin was much more cavalier in my opinion. I remember one episode where he put on some goggles and provoked a poison-spitting snake to spit him in the eyes over and over. It was insane.
     
  13. DaveC426913

    DaveC426913 16,081
    Gold Member

    I agree. I'm pretty impressed with how careful they are. This is a good example to set. (not that anyone should be trying to follow their example.) Only once did I ever see them (the juniors) go light a fire without proper safety gear (boxcar wine case bomb).

    But boy, when something goes wrong, it goes spectacularly wrong.
     
  14. Mythbusters guys have mighty mouths but their acts usually are not that impressive, I think.
     
  15. Ivan Seeking

    Ivan Seeking 12,521
    Staff Emeritus
    Science Advisor
    Gold Member

    I've never been a fan of the show but I did like the cement truck. An entire truck just disappeared in a giant explosion. It was quite impressive.
     
  16. Ivan Seeking

    Ivan Seeking 12,521
    Staff Emeritus
    Science Advisor
    Gold Member

    Yeah, Irwin was crazier.

    But you have to look at the logic being used here. If something goes wrong, where does the cannon ball go? "A residential area" is not the responsible answer.
     
  17. Moonbear

    Moonbear 12,266
    Staff Emeritus
    Science Advisor
    Gold Member

    I actually really enjoy their show. It's not really about teaching people proper scientific method (they never do enough replicates to really "confirm" or "bust" anything), but just getting the lay public more engaged and interested in science. Or, if nothing else, to inspire a healthy dose of skepticism about the many myths that abound, especially on the internet.

    I had heard about the cannonball issue when it happened. The homeowner was quoted as saying something like it's pretty funny looking back after knowing nobody got hurt. I was actually a bit surprised they did something like that so close to a residential area. I was always under the impression they went to extreme measures on safety and made sure they had very large safety zones around them, knowing there were chances of missing targets, etc.

    It is lucky nobody got hurt. Then again, I wish they'd hit the wall of my house...I have a remodeling project that I'd let them contract out to one of those extreme home makeover or Holmes on Homes type shows instead of calling the insurance carrier if they'd prefer. :D
     
  18. This is true.

    Did I ever tell you the story of my Dad getting hit in the belt buckle by a bullet?

    The neighbors lived on the other side of about a quarter mile of pine woods. One evening they were shooting 22's at a target and decided the woods was the best backdrop for that. Somehow a round made it completely through without hitting one tree and socked my Dad in the belt buckle. A double freak.
     
  19. Chi Meson

    Chi Meson 1,772
    Science Advisor
    Homework Helper

    Anyone who says that they do not take safety into concern obviously does not watch the show very much. They usually have lawyers comb over their stunts and more than once they have had a test stopped by a phone call because it was reviewed to be too dangerous. Freak accidents do happen, and after 10 years on the air, and after seeing nearly every episode, I am very surprised that this one came so close.

    So dismiss if you wish, but these guys have done more to promote proper scientific thinking than anyone on this forum (even if they do get it wrong sometimes).
     
  20. Ivan Seeking

    Ivan Seeking 12,521
    Staff Emeritus
    Science Advisor
    Gold Member

    I don't think anyone said they didn't take safety into consideration; my point was that they took an unnecessary risk. This was completely avoidable. No doubt relocation to a safer location would have cost too much. After ten years, perhaps they are getting sloppy. Bottom line: A residential area was down range!

    The last person I would ask about safety is a lawyer. If you want to know about safety, ask an engineer. If you want to know about liability you ask a lawyer.
     
  21. This is not true. They promote pop science which is just garbage. People here do much better job (in terms of quality) than those Mythbusters.

    I think they are neither much scientific nor crazy as people like Irwin. I tried to watch them once or twice but was put off by their excessive use of words and little actions :rofl:.
     
Know someone interested in this topic? Share a link to this question via email, Google+, Twitter, or Facebook

Have something to add?
Similar discussions for: Mythbusters attack San Francisco
Loading...