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Homework Help: Need help disproving this

  1. Mar 12, 2010 #1
    1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

    Thanks for the help on the last problem. Here is the final problem set I'm stuck on:


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    2. Relevant equations



    3. The attempt at a solution

    To me it seems that there will always be a positive c so that cg(n) is greater or equal to f(n). No matter how large n is, since there's no limit to how large c can be (can even be a decimal), wouldn't that always be possible?

    Thanks.
     
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  3. Mar 13, 2010 #2

    Mark44

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    First off, g is not a polynomial, as it is not the sum of multiples of integral powers of n. It might be helpful for you to graph the two functions, because you would see that for n larger than about 20, the linear function dominates the other function. Although f(n) = 2n + 3 is a linear function and grows at only a constant rate, that rate is larger than that of the other function, for large enough n.
     
  4. Mar 13, 2010 #3
    Oooh I see. Since c is fixed and chosen before the n, then there will always be an n that contradicts the statement right?

    I'm guessing the same thing applies to this other problem right?

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    Last edited: Mar 13, 2010
  5. Mar 13, 2010 #4

    vela

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    Yes, essentially. For the first problem, there's no fixed value of c that works because you can always make n large enough so that the inequality doesn't hold. In other words, no such c exists.
     
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