Need help with DC Motor Circuit

In summary: PWM is the way to go.In summary, the individual is seeking help with setting up a circuit with 4 DC motors in parallel, each with a push button switch, a variable resistor, and a LED strip. They are wondering if this circuit is feasible and what their power source should be. A possible schematic and a recommendation for using PWM and a transistor to control the motors are provided.
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Dammert89
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Good day. I was wondering if anyone could help me with the following problem. As you can see in the diagram below, I want to set up a circuit with 4 DC Motors in parallel, each with a push button switch. And a variable resistor to control the speed manually. I would like a LED strip to be connected as well as shown. The LED should always be on and the motors would only run one at a time as long as the switch is pressed. I need to know the following:
If this circuit is do-able?
What my power source should be? (Preferably a wall plug).
The LED won't pull that much current that the motors don't work will they?

Here is a list of the Items I am using. The motors I already have but the rest must still be ordered.

M: Motors: 4x RS-360SH
R1: Variable resistor: Either This one or this one.
S1-S4: Switch: Tactile Switch B1735
L1: LED: LED STRIP WHITE IP20

And my schematic
http://imageshack.com/a/img661/4373/7nFhRB.jpg [Broken]
Thanks in advance!

Regards
Mike
 
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Your circuit will not work at all. There is no voltage applied to any component.
 
  • #3
Then what is the problem?
 
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Dammert89 said:
Then what is the problem?

Greetings MIke

one side of the battery isn't connected to anything
both sides of the motors are connected to the same side of the resistor, once side directly, the other via the switch
therefore the motors won't work and the LED won't light either as only one side of it is connected to the battery

Am just a little busy at the moment ... I will try and get a chance later to redraw the circuit for you :)

cheers
Dave
 
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Thanks davenn and Baluncore. Not to good with the schematics... I see there is a resistor in with the LED's? Why would that be? Each motors operating range is 3-12V and at maximum efficiency uses 1.76A. So I could use a 12V 2A adapter for this? And is that the reason for the resistor in with the LED(To bring down the current)?
 
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It appears you have a very limited understanding of ohms law and circuits in general. That's ok, just take the time to learn it. Any diode, LED or otherwise, will only ever drop a fixed voltage across it before it destroys itself. This means that an LED that is conducting .02 amps for instance will drop about 2 volts. The same LED that is conducting .03 amps will also drop about 2 volts. The current and voltage do not have a linear relationship as a resistor does. That is the reason for the resistor. It limits the current. A 12 volt supply running an LED in the above schematic will have the resistor dropping around 10 volts assuming the LED has 2 volts across it. Do you know enough about ohms law to compute the required resistor size based on the spec of the LED?
 
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Thanks Baluncore

I got tied up with work till last nite, didn't get finished till 1030pm

was going to do the diag this morning but you have filled in the gap :)

and one other thing ... to the OP
controlling motors with a variable resistor isn't a good way to go ... Yes you slow it down
by dropping the voltage, but you also remove much of its current supply which means it
cannot develop the same power at the slower speed

You may want to read up on PWM and H-Bridge driving of motors

cheers
Dave
 
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Dammert89 said:
Each motors operating range is 3-12V and at maximum efficiency uses 1.76A. So I could use a 12V 2A adapter for this?
No. If each motor draws 1.76A then a 2A supply can only supply one motor (two motors will draw 1.76*2A and so on). Also, the max current draw will likely be greater than the draw at max efficiency, the draw at stall could be double that. The actual current draw will depend on the load and the motor curve. If you draw a nice diagram of your intended plan we can offer some design input. Smaller motors may meet spec.
 
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Max efficiency and 1.76 amp point on operating curve is per the datasheet at very low load.
The motor can pull over 8 amps at stall.

http://www.mabuchi-motor.co.jp/cgi-bin/catalog/e_catalog.cgi?CAT_ID=rs_360sh [Broken]

What do you intend to spin with the motor?
 
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Thanks for all the posts. Did a bit of research on the Ohm's law. Starting to understand it now. Probably should have done my research before I posted. Sorry guys. My plan is to have only 1 motor running at any time. never more than 1. It is a project that will just circulate various solutions of water. The motor comes with a centrifugal attachment. So I don't think I would need as much current. The water just needs to move as the button is pressed. Don't need a strong motor. Those are the smallest motors available that I can find in RSA. I came across a similar project using an Raspberry Pi and motor controller. That would ultimately be the best option I think? I reckon I will go with that tutorial and do it from there. Thanks again
 
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Those switches will not be able to handle the amount of current required.

Look into using a mosfet or bjt and using the switch to turn on the collector or base of the transistor.

You will also want to add a flyback diode to protect the transistor.

I also highly recommend you follow the advice given before and put some thought into your motor controler
 

1. How does a DC motor circuit work?

A DC motor circuit works by converting electrical energy into mechanical energy through the use of magnets and coils. When a current is passed through the coils, a magnetic field is created which interacts with the magnets and produces rotational motion.

2. What components are needed for a basic DC motor circuit?

A basic DC motor circuit requires a power source, a switch, a DC motor, and a resistor. The power source provides the electrical energy, the switch controls the flow of current, the DC motor converts the electrical energy into mechanical energy, and the resistor helps regulate the flow of current.

3. How do I determine the appropriate voltage and current for my DC motor circuit?

The appropriate voltage and current for a DC motor circuit depend on the specifications of the motor. You can usually find this information on the motor's datasheet. It is important to match the voltage and current ratings of the motor to the power source to prevent damage to the motor or circuit.

4. How can I control the speed of a DC motor in a circuit?

The speed of a DC motor can be controlled by adjusting the voltage or current supplied to the motor. This can be done through the use of a variable resistor or a pulse width modulation (PWM) circuit. The higher the voltage or current, the faster the motor will spin.

5. What are some common problems that may occur in a DC motor circuit?

One common problem in a DC motor circuit is overheating, which can be caused by using a power source with a voltage or current that is too high for the motor. Another issue could be a short circuit, which can occur if the wires are not connected properly. Additionally, worn out brushes or a damaged commutator can affect the performance of the motor.

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