Mastering Logarithms: Simplify with 2/log9 A - 1/log3 A = 3/log3 A

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In summary, the conversation discusses how to prove the identity 2/log_{9} (a-1) - 1/log_{3} (a) = 3/log_{3} (a). The solution involves using the fact that log_{9} (x) = 1/2 log_{3} (x) and the identity log_{a} (x) = log_{b} (x)/log_{b} (a). By plugging in these values and simplifying, the proof can be easily shown. Different methods are suggested, including using common numerators and using the identity directly.
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I don't know how to show that:

2/log underscore9 A-1/log underscore3 A = 3/log underscore3 A
 
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  • #2
Are you asking:

[tex]\log_{9}(a-1) - \log_{3}(a) = 3 \log_{3}(a)[/tex]

?
 
  • #3
NO.

2/((log under9)a)-((1/log under3)a)= 3/((log under3)a)

GOT IT?
 
  • #4
your question is basically
[tex] \frac{2}{log_9 A} - \frac{1}{log_3A} = \frac{3}{log_3A} [/tex]

do you know the identity:
[tex] log_ax=\frac{log_bx}{log_ba} [/tex]


this implies
log_9A= (1/2)log_3A
 
  • #5
yes

and so...
 
  • #6
Ok. So you have [tex] \frac{2}{log_9 A} - \frac{1}{log_3A} = \frac{3}{log_3A} [/tex]

If you get a common numerator of 6, you can rewrite this as

[tex] \frac{6}{3log_9 A} - \frac{6}{6log_3A} = \frac{6}{2log_3A} [/tex]

From there you can multiply by [tex]\frac{1}{6}[/tex] and cancel out the top.

Can you solve it from there?
 
  • #7
see the white letter in my first post
 
  • #8
Probably, you need the fact that

[tex]2\log_9 x = \log_3 x[/tex]

which follows because:

If we put [tex]y = \log_9 x[/tex], then [tex]x = 9^y[/tex], and therefore

[tex]\log_3 x = \log_3 9^y = y\log_3 9 = 2y = 2\log_9 x[/tex]

(I hope that's right.)
 
  • #9
nm holy ****...how would I know to set y to that?

and so how does 2log_9x=log_3x?
 
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  • #10
damnit all of you gave me different ways but now I'm confused ...can someone really go easy step by step

I tried something else. DOn't know if its right but how do I prove:

log_9a=2log_3a
 
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  • #11
plug in [tex]log_9A=1/2 log_3A[/tex] in your left hand side of [tex] \frac{2}{log_9 A} - \frac{1}{log_3A} = \frac{3}{log_3A} [/tex]
you'll see the answer instantly, what is your problem?

the prove had already provided by James R in #8 post, which part you don't understand?
 
  • #12
how you got 1/2log_3A
 
  • #13
how you got 1/2log_3A
see post number 8 by JamesR
or use the identity:
[tex] log_ax=\frac{log_bx}{log_ba} [/tex]
this identity can be proved by the same method in post #8
 

What is a logarithm?

A logarithm is a mathematical function that is the inverse of the exponential function. It is used to solve equations involving exponential expressions and is commonly denoted as log(x).

How do I solve logarithmic equations?

To solve a logarithmic equation, you can use the properties of logarithms, such as the product, quotient, and power rules. You can also use the change of base formula to rewrite the equation in a form that is easier to solve.

Can logarithms be negative?

Yes, logarithms can be negative. However, the argument of the logarithm (the number inside the parentheses) must be positive. If the argument is negative, the logarithm is undefined.

Why do we use logarithms?

Logarithms are used to solve equations involving exponential expressions and to simplify complex calculations. They are also used in various fields such as finance, science, and engineering to express large numbers in a more manageable form.

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The relationship between logarithms and exponents is that they are inverse functions of each other. This means that if you take the logarithm of a number, you can find the exponent that was used to get that number. Similarly, if you raise a number to a certain exponent, you can find the logarithm of that number.

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