Need sum help (information theory)

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need sum help please:) (information theory)

Hello.

I'm working on an information theory-related problem that involves doing a nasty sum. The problem is this: in a widget factory there is a conveyor belt with N widgets on it, and an unknown fraction $\xi = a/N$ of them are defective. You examine a sample of n widgets and find that a fraction $\eta = b/n$. What is mutual information $I(\eta : \xi)$ between the random variables $\eta$ and $\xi$ ? The idea, i think, is to see how large a sample n you need to take so that the sample defect rate gives you information about the actual defect rate. Let A_a be the event that there are a defective parts in the whole lot and B_b be the event that there are b defective parts in the sample. Then the formula for mutual information is:

$$I (\eta : \xi) = \sum_{a=1}^{N} \sum_{b=1}^{n} P(A_{a}) P(B_{b} | A_{a}) \log_{2} { \frac{P(B_{b} | A_{a}) }{P(B_{b})} }$$

which is always nonnegative. Here's what I've got so far: $P(A_{a}) = 1/N$ by principle of insufficient reason (a could be anything from 1 to N with equal probability), and

$$P(B_{b} | A_{a}) = \frac{ \left( ^{a}_{b} \right) \left( ^{N-a}_{n-b} \right) }{ \left(^{N}_{n} \right) } = \frac{ \left( ^{n}_{b} \right) \left( ^{N-n}_{a-b} \right) }{ \left(^{N}_{a} \right) }$$
$$P(B_{b}) = \sum_{a=1}^{N} P(A_{a}) P(B_{b} | A_{a}) = \sum_{a=1}^{N} \frac{1}{N} \frac { \left( ^{n}_{b} \right) \left( ^{N-n}_{a-b} \right) }{ \left(^{N}_{a} \right) } \approx \int_{0}^{1} \left( ^{n}_{b} \right) x^{b} (1 - x)^{n-b} dx = \frac {\left( ^{n}_{b} \right)}{ \left( ^{n}_{b} \right) (n+1)} = \frac {1}{n+1}$$

if you pretend it is a Riemann sum and assume that $N \gg n$ and $a \gg b$, which I'm not sure is OK to do. I'm guessing the idea is to get some asymptotic formula for the mutual information as N becomes large, but how do you retain the dependence on N in the sum? For instance, if I apply the "large N" approximation for $P(B_{b} | A_{a})$, which is $\left( ^{n}_{b} \right) \left(\frac{a}{N}\right)^{b} \left(1 - \frac{a}{N} \right)^{n-b}$, and do the Riemann sum I get an expression that has no dependence on N and apparently diverges to negative infinity (weird because mutual information is nonnegative).

This is not a homework problem, just a "something to think about" problem I came across in an informal book on information theory.

thanks

 

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for any help!



Thank you for reaching out for help with your information theory problem. I am a scientist with expertise in this field and I would be happy to assist you. Based on the information you have provided, it seems like you are on the right track in solving this problem. However, there are a few things that I would like to clarify and suggest in order to help you find a solution.

Firstly, the formula for mutual information that you have provided is correct. However, in order to retain the dependence on N in the sum, you can use the approximation \left( ^{n}_{b} \right) \left(\frac{a}{N}\right)^{b} \left(1 - \frac{a}{N} \right)^{n-b} for P(B_{b} | A_{a}) and then use the "large N" approximation for P(B_{b}) as you have done before. This will give you an expression that still has dependence on N. It is important to note that this approximation may not be accurate for smaller values of N, so it would be best to use it for larger values of N as you have mentioned.

Secondly, I would suggest plotting the mutual information I(\eta : \xi) vs. n for different values of N to see how it changes. This will give you a better understanding of how the sample size affects the mutual information and will also help you in finding an asymptotic formula for it.

Lastly, I would recommend consulting with a colleague or a professor who has expertise in information theory and discussing your approach and findings with them. This will help you in gaining more insights and perspectives on the problem.

I hope this helps and I wish you all the best in finding a solution to your problem. Please feel free to reach out if you have any further questions or need any clarification.