# Neutron decay

1. Oct 1, 2009

### RedX

A free proton cannot turn into a neutron (via beta decay) because the neutron is heavier and that would violate energy conservation laws.

However, in the nucleus, a proton can turn into a neutron (and eject a positron in the process). Why doesn't this happen all the time? Reducing the charge on your nucleus seems to lower the electromagnetic energy, and the nucleon-nucleon strong force is the same for protons and neutrons so that doesn't change. So I'm seeing nothing but good things from this process.

Also I noticed that in the chiral Lagrangian the weak interaction is almost left chiral, e.g.:

$$\mathcal L=\bar{n}\gamma^\mu(1-g_A\gamma_5)p W^{-}_\mu$$

where $$g_A$$ is the numeric value 1.27 and p is the proton Dirac field and n is the neutron Dirac field and W is the W-boson.

So 1.27 is almost close to 1, in which case it looks like the weak interaction for leptons. What is the significance of this? Does this mean for protons traveling at high speeds, such as the LHC, if the proton is right-handed, it will not undergo a weak interaction?

2. Oct 1, 2009

### Bob S

A free proton at rest cannot decay into a neutron. A 7 TeV proton, at rest in its own restframe, cannot decay into a neutron either.
Bob S

3. Oct 1, 2009

### RedX

Is the proton really free or can it interact with the collider-ring material?

Also, at energies greater than .2 GeV (the QCD scale), how is the hadronization of quarks treated? With lattice theory? Because for energies below .2 GeV, a simple effective Lagrangian can be built (the chiral Lagrangian) that describes hadrons in a very simple manner. But 7 TeV is much higher, so I don't even know how to begin doing calculations on protons at that energy.

4. Oct 2, 2009

Staff Emeritus
It's free. If it interacts with the collider ring material it stops going around.

5. Oct 2, 2009

### JustinLevy

Neutrons are fermions and thus there is pauli exclusion to consider as well. For the simplest example, deuterium (proton + neutron) is a bound state, but neutron + neutron is not a bound state.

6. Oct 4, 2009

### RedX

Can't one neutron have up spin, and the other down spin?

A free neutron is heavy so it breaks up into a proton which is lighter. In atoms, protons can turn into neutrons, and the only driving force seems to be to relieve the electromagnetic forces.

7. Oct 4, 2009