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  1. Oct 28, 2004 #1
    Just caught this on CNN. Get over to http://www.georgewbush.com/ before they take it down. Take a look at the ‘whatever it takes’ photo. It shows a large crowd of US military personnel standing in formation listening to the president. Problem is, it’s a fake picture. If you look closely, you can see that a lot of the faces are exactly the same. Just thought it was funny. ‘whatever it takes’ indeed guys. :tongue2:
     

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  3. Oct 28, 2004 #2
    I see no GW Bush in that picture.
     
  4. Oct 28, 2004 #3

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    What is CNN saying about it? The photo looks fake simply because the foreground and background perspectives seem unlikely to have been captured at the same time. But lacking context, I can't say whether that's right or wrong (the tv ads have, indeed, been pulled from the site).
     
  5. Oct 28, 2004 #4
    Well the story will probably make it on the CNN website in a little while, but I only caught a bit of it. Yes I noticed there was not GW in the pictures also but that was the description given on the TV report.

    Oh, they're talking about it on CNN now. Basically the Bush camp says that the president was in the picture before on the left side speaking in front of a podium. He was then cut out and some pictures of the military personnel were edited in. I don’t know why they’d cut out the president, but ok, I’ll believe that.
     
  6. Oct 28, 2004 #5

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    I wonder if it was the picture at http://www.johnkerry.com/index.html that made them feel the need to show a picture filled with people...
     
  7. Oct 28, 2004 #6
    :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

    Yeah, I think Kerry wins that one.
     
  8. Oct 28, 2004 #7
    That's a lot of people. Im not sure if Bush can top that, keep adding more people and they will start to blend into the horizon :biggrin: .
     
  9. Oct 28, 2004 #8
    They photoshoped an image so it wouldn't look weird.

    Uh...

    Scandal?

    What?
     
  10. Oct 28, 2004 #9

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    http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/28/bush.ad.ap/index.html [Broken]
     
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  11. Oct 28, 2004 #10

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    If the pictures check posted are accurate, there were at least three podiums within the group of soldiers according to the Bush press release?

    What's wrong with just telling the truth? Ok, someone doctored up the picture, that I can accept, making up a lie to cover it up is pathetic.
     
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  12. Oct 29, 2004 #11

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    Evo, do you still continue to be shocked by lies and deception from the Bushies ? Most of us have developed an immunity to such reaction.
     
  13. Oct 29, 2004 #12

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    Could someone help me out here - I'm not seeing a lie. They doctored a photo to make it look pretty for the website and TV commercial and when asked about it, they admitted it. What's the problem?
     
  14. Oct 29, 2004 #13

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    I don't get how you're coming to the conclusion that there would be at least three podiums....can you clarify?

    So....If the origional is shown and it shows that it was only one podium and the president, as they are saying...then you will find it acceptable?
     
  15. Oct 29, 2004 #14
    Are you serious? We are talking about, not just any commercial, but the commercial of a presidential candidate. We have a legitimate expectation of a higher level of integrity.
     
  16. Oct 29, 2004 #15

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    For Evo.
    I believe this is the origional unaltered pic.
    http://www.georgewbush.com/images/gallery/P20035-07.jpg [Broken]
     
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  17. Oct 29, 2004 #16
    I think what Evo is trying to say is that since pictures of the same soldiers are shown three times, there should be three podiums, but they appear to be edited out entirely.
     
  18. Oct 29, 2004 #17

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    Then I'm going to assume that she's not familiar with photoshopping and leave it at that.
     
  19. Oct 29, 2004 #18

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    If you look at the picture check posted check2.jpg, in his first post, you will see three sets of soldiers over a large area, but the picture you referenced has just the single podium covering a much smaller area. That's a really bad job of photo editing.

    Yes, it is acceptable, I don't see what the fuss is about. It's obvious that they didn't alter the photo with the intention of creating a false message and the Bush press release appears to be accurate.

    Why would anyone even care about this?
     
  20. Oct 29, 2004 #19
    Out of US, we are forbidden to see Bush's web.
     
  21. Oct 29, 2004 #20

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    Integrity for what? You're implying that altering the photo, in and of itself, is a deception. It isn't. Here is the point:
    Altering a photo is not automatically an attempt to decieve. There is no integrity issue here.
     
  22. Oct 29, 2004 #21
    Trying to look to the link from Europe, but:
    Access Denied
    You don't have permission to access "http://www.georgewbush.com/images/gallery/P20035-07.jpg" [Broken] on this server

    The rest of the world is not allowed. :rofl:
     
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  23. Oct 29, 2004 #22

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    You can find both photos http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/28/bush.ad.ap/index.html [Broken]. Heck, it seems to me that Kerry fans should like the alteration: the photo was altered to take Bush out of it.
     
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  24. Oct 29, 2004 #23
    Of course it is. But it's intended for a naive, simple minded Bush supporters. They must have the impression that a LOT of SOLDIERS were there with their Imperial Commander in Chief.
    You can create a lot of possible reasons to cover up this deception, but we don't buy that. We are not that naive.
     
  25. Oct 29, 2004 #24

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    Actually the edit wasn't adding to the number of soldiers in the picture, so they were not trying to be deceptive in that way.

    Of course anyone that thinks all of those soldiers packed in there like that of their own free will is naive. Bush is currently Commander in Chief and the soldiers were ordered to be there.
     
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  26. Oct 29, 2004 #25

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    The edit does not change the number of soldiers implied by the picture. Would you like to try again?
    What cover-up! Jeez, you're trying awfully hard to pump a dry well, here: the Bush team was asked about the photo and admitted it was altered. There is no cover-up.

    This is yet another issue that a reactionary left is trying to blow out of proportion, only to have it blow up in their own face.

    Did you even look at the two photos yet?
     
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