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Nikolai Tesla, Eugenicist

  1. Dec 4, 2012 #1

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    another god with feet of clay...

    http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/pal...-eugenicist-eliminating-undesirables-by-2100/

     
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  3. Dec 4, 2012 #2

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    What about it?
     
  4. Dec 9, 2012 #3

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    what about what? thought it was an interesting article, particularly with the near canonization of Tesla in popular culture, such as this piece:

    http://theoatmeal.com/comics/tesla
     
  5. Dec 9, 2012 #4

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    Yes, many famous people in history have skeletons in their closet if you will.
     
  6. Dec 10, 2012 #5
    See also:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics_in_the_United_States

    "Some states sterilized "imbeciles" for much of the 20th century. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in the 1927 Buck v. Bell case that the state of Virginia could sterilize those it thought unfit. Although compulsory sterilization is now considered an abuse of human rights, Buck v. Bell was never overturned, and Virginia did not repeal its sterilization law until 1974."

    Skeletons, as said, just not mentioned frequently.
     
  7. Dec 10, 2012 #6

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    Yes, a largely forgotten history, how American eugenics was at the forefront of the progressive movement and was an inspiration to the Nazi eugenics program. The defense at the Nuremburg trials used buck v bell to argue that the allies were being hypocritical prosecuting nazi war criminals for practices which existed in the US.
     
  8. Dec 10, 2012 #7

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    Well we are, after all, a nation founded on hypocrisy (All men are created equal ... unless they're black) so they they should have known we wouldn't take that defense seriously.
     
  9. Dec 22, 2012 #8

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    The former was stated as you say in 1776 which may have been hypocritical, but then it was stated atop the four proceeding millennia of governing philosophies holding that nobody was created equal to those borne to rule. The latter incidence of the Nuremburg trial was in 1945 after the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments and 600,000 dead in a war to right the prior wrong. A fair take on the history would be that the principal of equal creation is taken quite seriously my Americans.
     
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  10. Dec 22, 2012 #9

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    That euphemism indicates something hidden by the subject. Tesla's eugenics claims were not, even if they were ignored by his later god makers.

    Another scientist with similar feet of clay: Shockley

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  11. Dec 22, 2012 #10
    I'm not certain he was expressing his personal opinion - other than in making the prediction - which has another 87 years to be proved true or false. Might this comment be out of context and only an analysis of a eugenics position?
     
  12. Dec 22, 2012 #11
    To me, it definitely reads as if he's advocating it.
     
  13. Dec 22, 2012 #12
    But how would that go with eugenics?
     
  14. Dec 22, 2012 #13

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    Yes, I agree actually, I just don't like our early hypocrisy on blacks, women, native Americans, Asians, and so forth.

    My own take is that America is in many ways a truly disgusting country, seriously flawed, but has as its main redeaming virtue the fact that it is by far the best the world has ever seen.
     
  15. Dec 22, 2012 #14
    I'll admit the bloggers post sounds that way - but I'd like to see the original quotes.
     
  16. Dec 24, 2012 #15
    What was posted at the Smithsonian link is presented as the original quote from Tesla, taken verbatim from the article:

    It's not a paraphrase or digest. The blog author refers to it as a 'transcription', which implies he copied it verbatim from the magazine with the Tesla interview.
     
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