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No first amendment, K-12, why?

  1. Jul 16, 2005 #1

    Pengwuino

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    I remember that there was a SCOTUS decision decades ago saying that kids are not allowed their 1st amendment rights and various other rights to "keep order" or something to that effect in school. Does anyone know off-hand what case this was or maybe when it was decided? Bunch of kids on this other forum are crying out "they won't give us our constitutionally guaranteed rights!" and im trying to explain to them exactly what freedom of speech would mean in a 700 kid elementary school.

    This is really hard in google because "1st amendment" + "school" + "supreme court" is just a reallllllllly bad set of terms for what im looking for (think prayer in school, uttering the word God, mentioning the bible in anyway at all... etc etc).
     
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  3. Jul 17, 2005 #2

    honestrosewater

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    Maybe http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/Speech/faqs.aspx?id=33& has what you're seeking? (Or you can check around that section, http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/Speech/studentexpression/Index.aspx)
    There are also some interesting cases here. For instance, re Hazelwood School District v. Kuhlmeier
    The SCOTUS has also ruled in favor of students in other cases, so it isn't so straightforward.
     
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  4. Jul 17, 2005 #3

    Pengwuino

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    Damn... US government teacher didnt smart us right ye haw
     
  5. Jul 17, 2005 #4

    honestrosewater

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    Well, you were partially correct. I think HAZELWOOD SCHOOL DISTRICT v. KUHLMEIER is the case you're more interested in. I was just pointing out that, though the schools have been given more power in some respects, they haven't been given unlimited power.
     
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